Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:51050) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SpoaB-0002ED-T1; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:43:33 -0700 Received: by eaad14 with SMTP id d14sf2315160eaa.16 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:43:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=eAdslNWmn4+kDhoj2NZf5ijLTtpKevrACwvkwWDTgUQ=; b=TgL1MxF8e04MBpNTy/YKk5xZJxo4OzBVxXOpeXRCspS3Y7K+VCC1y3iV7SR87Yk3HV W7Sp0XQ6X7Ky7SCXOHPFT2BcexF+/xz6BEuo73x/57P1iUOxxcSoYjwO5V53CZu/s6Ak 2CblEekMMP21UUU94U16wLJ6p//+hkA6F1slg= Received: by 10.216.9.168 with SMTP id 40mr95691wet.0.1342219401104; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:43:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.99.194 with SMTP id x42ls988999eef.6.gmail; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.129.81 with SMTP id n17mr412681bks.3.1342219399345; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.129.81 with SMTP id n17mr412680bks.3.1342219399331; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f171.google.com (mail-lb0-f171.google.com [209.85.217.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j4si2257357bkj.3.2012.07.13.15.43.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.171; Received: by lbom4 with SMTP id m4so11882947lbo.16 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:43:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.113.68 with SMTP id iw4mr3008159lab.50.1342219398949; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.28.134 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:43:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8ffd2928-910d-4818-8546-8c84e3678abe@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 19:43:18 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] scalars and portion selbri From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Jacob Errington wrote: > > Using si'e implies *time* I'd say, because these MOI cmavo don't know > of the natural implications of "going" such as distance travelled, > etc. Furthermore, in Lojban we must frequently use events as proxies > for their durations. ({mi klama ze'u lo cacra} is equivalen to {mi > klama ze'u lo nu do citka} if do eats for one hour.) We can presumably > use {la'e} to remedy this. Consider someone travelling to place 100km > away. The first 50 km took 30 minutes to travel, but the last 50km > took one hour. The temporal 50% is reached at 62.5km of travelled > distance, but the distance 50% is reached at 50km. > > #4 {la'e lo nu caba'o klama cu fi'uresi'e la'e lo mu'e klama} Or you could use "lo ve klama": "lo ca ba'o ve klama cu fi'u re si'e lo ba mo'u ve klama". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.