Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:41195) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SpppH-0002pj-M7; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:03:18 -0700 Received: by qcac11 with SMTP id c11sf4291601qca.16 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:03:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Ggsm0X7uRXSQFqYCbJuBM4Qe0sgehKWoBXYY1XFDePI=; b=mhPiwj4RUU9T5ciIbbSOWiIkDGVKIvwPszHATrX5fs38kiMvr486KcDLBZFALeS0oz KKLefZqdvRVCzIwTcO/RaqUWSmlEFfLI/nM/s0cbtZc6YJ4ovCjk4sREFK8AI7jN713b Gyqcnenn6l/KoA5wyF6tWWI03rqk+d/hKnNo4= Received: by 10.236.145.70 with SMTP id o46mr861851yhj.1.1342224185042; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:03:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.85.78 with SMTP id t54ls6805407yhe.1.gmail; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.73.131 with SMTP id v3mr6440279yhd.6.1342224183664; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.73.131 with SMTP id v3mr6440277yhd.6.1342224183656; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gg0-f181.google.com (mail-gg0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u67si613181yhi.7.2012.07.13.17.03.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of celestialcognition@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.181; Received: by ggnv5 with SMTP id v5so5138894ggn.26 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.126.1 with SMTP id gu1mr1995503icc.6.1342224183434; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.103] (76-76-236-67.lisco.net. [76.76.236.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s4sm2677024igb.1.2012.07.13.17.03.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5000B735.6020605@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 19:03:01 -0500 From: vitci'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Gender, yet again. References: <4FFE5CB0.7050506@gmail.com> <41a043f3-4116-45ad-baab-730e89b69637@googlegroups.com> <4FFF61CF.9080807@gmail.com> <4FFF8D51.7070002@gmail.com> <4FFF9080.5000800@gmail.com> <4FFFA544.5070404@gmail.com> <4FFFAF56.7050901@gmail.com> <4FFFCCAD.5070809@gmail.com> <5000966F.0@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: celestialcognition@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of celestialcognition@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=celestialcognition@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On 07/13/2012 04:57 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Stereotypes aren't imaginary. They're derogatory, insulting, and WRONG. What's the difference between something that's imaginary and something that's not true? > Except that's not the way we do things. The meaning of the English "gender" > is so broad it covers /completely unrelated/ concepts. > > There is nothing wrong with having a word in Lojban that covers a wide > berth- that's what the intention of the gismu is, after all. > > But we do /not/ have words that cover multiple concepts. That defeats the > purpose of the language. What set of words do you suggest? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.