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Subject: Re: [lojban] Gender, yet again.
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On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:03 PM, vitci'i <celestialcognition@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 07/13/2012 04:57 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > Stereotypes aren't imaginary. They're derogatory, insulting, and WRONG.
>
> What's the difference between something that's imaginary and something
> that's not true?
>

I will not be dragged into a philosophical debate.


> > Except that's not the way we do things. The meaning of the English
> "gender"
> > is so broad it covers /completely unrelated/ concepts.
> >
> > There is nothing wrong with having a word in Lojban that covers a wide
> > berth- that's what the intention of the gismu is, after all.
> >
> > But we do /not/ have words that cover multiple concepts. That defeats the
> > purpose of the language.
>
> What set of words do you suggest?
>

As I've said previously, I don't consider any of the concepts important to
/need/ a word, but I would suggest those of you that do to use the list
John Clifford posted.


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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:03 PM, vitci&#39;i <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:celestialcognition@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">celestialcognition@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On 07/13/2012 04:57 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote:<br>
&gt; Stereotypes aren&#39;t imaginary. They&#39;re derogatory, insulting, a=
nd WRONG.<br>
<br>
</div>What&#39;s the difference between something that&#39;s imaginary and =
something<br>
that&#39;s not true?<br></blockquote><div><br>I will not be dragged into a =
philosophical debate.<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"im">&gt; Except that&#39;s not the way we do things. The mean=
ing of the English &quot;gender&quot;<br>
&gt; is so broad it covers /completely unrelated/ concepts.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; There is nothing wrong with having a word in Lojban that covers a wide=
<br>
&gt; berth- that&#39;s what the intention of the gismu is, after all.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; But we do /not/ have words that cover multiple concepts. That defeats =
the<br>
&gt; purpose of the language.<br>
<br>
</div>What set of words do you suggest?<br></blockquote><div><br>As I&#39;v=
e said previously, I don&#39;t consider any of the concepts important to /n=
eed/ a word, but I would suggest those of you that do to use the list John =
Clifford posted.<br>
</div></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>=
.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;=
o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>

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