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On Saturday, July 14, 2012 12:11:08 AM UTC-5, tsani wrote:
>
> I'd like to help out ! :) 
>
Awesome -- feel free to join in the fun!
Just dive in and feel free to leave comments/questions places. 

>
> (Though it seems somepony intends to make 
> > brivla as well for some reason...?) 
> > 
>
> I'm of the opinion that they should be zi'evla of the type {x1 is a 
> [pokemon] of type x2, level x3, and trainer x4.} Maybe an x5, but I 
> don't know what for. I'm also not sure what's more important: level or 
> type. Perhaps the trainer place isn't a smart idea. What do we put 
> there if the pokemon is wild? ({noda} is nogood.) 
>
> So, this is totally making more sense now. I immediately conceded to 
having item names be brivla, because that's inherently awesome and dumb of 
me to not do earlier. However, I feel entirely certain that the pokemon 
should have both cmevla and brivla versions. And the cmene are more 
important. Here's why -- I catch a Pikachu, and the game's first question 
is whether to give it a nickname. Provided I don't name it, Pikachu is 
fully intended to be it's name.

So if I were to really get in gear and somehow be ready to put a version 
out when there was only time to get either cmevla or brivla of pokemon 
names, I'd take the cmevla first.

However, I think it will be really cool to have pokemon brivla as well. 
That would really show off a lot of Lojbanic awesomeness.

*back to the issue*
suppose we make up a broda for Pikachu -- broda2 as type is very useless, 
as the type does not vary from Pikachu to Pikachu, but from pokemon species 
to species.

Note that la selpa'i was suggesting a fu'ivla for pokemon: {pokmone}

So, how about:
pokmone: (rafsi: pok) x1 is a pokemon of species x2 and level x3
pokjutsi: x1 is a pokemon species of type(s) x2 with evolutions/family x3
broda poi pokjutsi: x1 is a [broda] at level x2 trained by x3
"Wild [broda] appeared!" can be "lo cilce broda ku tolcanci" or similar. 
Tanru can affect the semantics of place structures enough for that.
Evolutions can be described with {binxo}, and I would even go as far as to 
describe families as
lo lanzu be la .tsirespas. ce'o la .xederespas. ce'o la .musirespas. bei lo 
nu binxo
where, of course, we would prefer brivla for lo pokjutsi

mu'o mi'e .djos.

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<br>On Saturday, July 14, 2012 12:11:08 AM UTC-5, tsani wrote:<blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">I'd like to help out ! :)
<br></blockquote><div>Awesome -- feel free to join in the fun!</div><div>Ju=
st dive in and feel free to leave comments/questions places.&nbsp;</div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border=
-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>(Though it seems somepony intends to make
<br>&gt; brivla as well for some reason...?)
<br>&gt;
<br>
<br>I'm of the opinion that they should be zi'evla of the type {x1 is a
<br>[pokemon] of type x2, level x3, and trainer x4.} Maybe an x5, but I
<br>don't know what for. I'm also not sure what's more important: level or
<br>type. Perhaps the trainer place isn't a smart idea. What do we put
<br>there if the pokemon is wild? ({noda} is nogood.)
<br><br></blockquote><div>So, this is totally making more sense now. I imme=
diately conceded to having item names be brivla, because that's inherently =
awesome and dumb of me to not do earlier. However, I feel entirely certain =
that the pokemon should have both cmevla and brivla versions. And the cmene=
 are more important. Here's why -- I catch a Pikachu, and the game's first =
question is whether to give it a nickname. Provided I don't name it, Pikach=
u is fully intended to be it's name.</div><div><br></div><div>So if I were =
to really get in gear and somehow be ready to put a version out when there =
was only time to get either cmevla or brivla of pokemon names, I'd take the=
 cmevla first.</div><div><br></div><div>However, I think it will be really =
cool to have pokemon brivla as well. That would really show off a lot of Lo=
jbanic awesomeness.</div><div><br></div><div><b>back to the issue</b></div>=
<div>suppose we make up a broda for Pikachu -- broda2 as type is very usele=
ss, as the type does not vary from Pikachu to Pikachu, but from pokemon spe=
cies to species.</div><div><br></div><div>Note that la selpa'i was suggesti=
ng a fu'ivla for pokemon: {pokmone}</div><div><br></div><div>So, how about:=
</div><div>pokmone: (rafsi: pok) x1 is a pokemon of species x2 and level x3=
</div><div>pokjutsi: x1 is a pokemon species of type(s) x2 with evolutions/=
family x3</div><div>broda poi pokjutsi: x1 is a [broda] at level x2 trained=
 by x3</div><div>"Wild [broda] appeared!" can be "lo cilce broda ku tolcanc=
i" or similar. Tanru can affect the semantics of place structures enough fo=
r that.</div><div>Evolutions can be described with {binxo}, and I would eve=
n go as far as to describe families as</div><div>lo lanzu be la .tsirespas.=
 ce'o la .xederespas. ce'o la .musirespas. bei lo nu binxo</div><div>where,=
 of course, we would prefer brivla for lo pokjutsi</div><div><br></div><div=
>mu'o mi'e .djos.</div>

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