Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:42940) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Spylq-0005O0-AR; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 02:36:15 -0700 Received: by qcac11 with SMTP id c11sf4652878qca.16 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 02:36:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EFz8IppdQmtwUxjV90Nb1neuE11RUc2ddEYeZrLhQUY=; b=OzRjbE9pBycFXG0Ajw4X46cbVIFO8AAmnhiU9dpz4xCR+74DeBVfN3AnxMubinBj0G DKBJLuLQPkB3cEYzL3h/LnHhR4G2jZBs7gP3op0R5xD0UgbSnSqUQHLw4dqpIRYxge+d LwW/iMgzlTz6JZi2DkrEBsy/2pkC/6X0jHIJQ= Received: by 10.68.216.163 with SMTP id or3mr805628pbc.1.1342258567542; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 02:36:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.211.194 with SMTP id ne2ls11043607pbc.9.gmail; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 02:36:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.202.36 with SMTP id kf4mr803701pbc.10.1342258566730; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 02:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nl1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 02:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 02:36:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2) AppleWebKit/537.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/21.0.1180.41 Safari/537.1,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <4e7ecbe5-d73c-451b-a321-a124b931ddac@nl1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: the day after tomorrow and the day before yesterday From: la gleki To: lojban X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On May 29, 7:43=A0am, Jacob Errington wrote: > Yes, there is. The gismu deep structure is wrong: > lo ka bavbavlamdei cu ka ce'u djedi gi'e lamji ce'u noi balvi *lo balvi b= e > ce'u* > where the added on "lo balvi" is the result of tacking on the extra -bav-= . > So "a day that is adjacent to an event that is in the future of the futur= e > of an event" i.e. BAD. > > In fact, the GDS for bavlamdei is really messy: > lo ka bavlamdei cu ka ce'u djedi gi'e lamji ce'u noi balvi ce'u > > You might as well just use {ba za re lo djedi} > > My ramblings: > {lo se detri be li za'u} is an interesting solution, where the number of > "tomorrows" can be indicated after the za'u: > {lo se detri be li za'ure} -> "the day after tomorrow" and {lo se detri b= e > li za'uci} "the day after that". > If {za'u} had a lujvo, which is sadly does not, I'd propose: {za'u zei > seldetri} =3D x1 is the event occurring on date x2 days after x3 at locat= ion > x4 by caldendar x5. > Unfortunately {za'u zei seldetri} suffers from karcykla syndrome: is it > days, months, weeks, years? *shrug* we can't know Shouldn't we add {pi'e} to point to week/month/year? > Even with {lo se detri > be li za'u} we can't really know to what the za'u is adding. > > On 28 May 2012 22:50, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > > > > > > > > > Is there something wrong with {bavbavlamdei} and {pruprulamdei}? > > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Jacob Errington > > wrote: > > > Well, considering {bavlamdei =3D d1=3Db1=3Dl1 is tomorrow; d1=3Db1=3D= l1 is the day > > > following b2=3Dl2, day standard d3,} > > > {lo bavlamdei be lo bavlamdei (be lo cabdei)} does it, but that's lon= g. > > > You could say {lo bavlamdei bavlamdei} but that's almost as long. > > > I personally have used the PA rafsi to pull this off: {lo relbavlamde= i} > > or > > > {lo bavrelylamdei}; however, I don't know if this is acceptable. > > > > On 26 May 2012 15:54, Andrew Dibble wrote: > > > >> Is there a simple Lojban word for these phrases? > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > >> "lojban" group. > > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > > >>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/039gbB7uvNAJ. > > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr= oups > > > "lojban" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > > -- > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Alex R > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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