Received: from mail-qa0-f56.google.com ([209.85.216.56]:55595) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sq4WZ-0000Hs-MP; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:44:57 -0700 Received: by qaas11 with SMTP id s11sf1805730qaa.1 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:44:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=M9NuD89JSyV/fz6QDh4eajQ1MBfVZfpcxUow7HFbIVA=; b=qhY5J5HUYMiXk96oLRU3oA+N4d3fNepNBX++LhtTd2nXzxmFH1KAIyU5FmeE+y2vZ4 7wb396pZAfzk4M/DmWfMnmbgan/n+XwI86MxKJeYVh7ifjZ09vVanBxBsQl4HSgMZPu9 2winm75Fbew1WeY7/4g3IbS21Bcw+p4y1ESD8= Received: by 10.52.66.44 with SMTP id c12mr428629vdt.19.1342280685173; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:44:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.221.197 with SMTP id id5ls2264851vcb.5.gmail; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.88.174 with SMTP id bh14mr6156953vdb.6.1342280684485; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.88.174 with SMTP id bh14mr6156952vdb.6.1342280684473; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12si473768vdf.3.2012.07.14.08.44.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.51; Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id p1so2646349vbi.10 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.92.228 with SMTP id cp4mr2111702vdb.42.1342280684196; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:44:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.24.193 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:44:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4e7ecbe5-d73c-451b-a321-a124b931ddac@nl1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> References: <4e7ecbe5-d73c-451b-a321-a124b931ddac@nl1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> From: Jacob Errington Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:44:23 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: the day after tomorrow and the day before yesterday To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On 14 July 2012 05:36, la gleki wrote: > > > On May 29, 7:43 am, Jacob Errington wrote: >> Yes, there is. The gismu deep structure is wrong: >> lo ka bavbavlamdei cu ka ce'u djedi gi'e lamji ce'u noi balvi *lo balvi be >> ce'u* >> where the added on "lo balvi" is the result of tacking on the extra -bav-. >> So "a day that is adjacent to an event that is in the future of the future >> of an event" i.e. BAD. >> >> In fact, the GDS for bavlamdei is really messy: >> lo ka bavlamdei cu ka ce'u djedi gi'e lamji ce'u noi balvi ce'u >> >> You might as well just use {ba za re lo djedi} >> >> My ramblings: >> {lo se detri be li za'u} is an interesting solution, where the number of >> "tomorrows" can be indicated after the za'u: >> {lo se detri be li za'ure} -> "the day after tomorrow" and {lo se detri be >> li za'uci} "the day after that". >> If {za'u} had a lujvo, which is sadly does not, I'd propose: {za'u zei >> seldetri} = x1 is the event occurring on date x2 days after x3 at location >> x4 by caldendar x5. >> Unfortunately {za'u zei seldetri} suffers from karcykla syndrome: is it >> days, months, weeks, years? *shrug* we can't know > Shouldn't we add {pi'e} to point to week/month/year? We can presumably use pi'e in the x2 number to do that, sure, but I have no idea what you mean by "add {pi'e}". We can't add it to the lujvo, especially because the lujvo doesn't even exist. >> Even with {lo se detri >> be li za'u} we can't really know to what the za'u is adding. >> >> On 28 May 2012 22:50, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Is there something wrong with {bavbavlamdei} and {pruprulamdei}? >> >> > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Jacob Errington >> > wrote: >> > > Well, considering {bavlamdei = d1=b1=l1 is tomorrow; d1=b1=l1 is the day >> > > following b2=l2, day standard d3,} >> > > {lo bavlamdei be lo bavlamdei (be lo cabdei)} does it, but that's long. >> > > You could say {lo bavlamdei bavlamdei} but that's almost as long. >> > > I personally have used the PA rafsi to pull this off: {lo relbavlamdei} >> > or >> > > {lo bavrelylamdei}; however, I don't know if this is acceptable. >> >> > > On 26 May 2012 15:54, Andrew Dibble wrote: >> >> > >> Is there a simple Lojban word for these phrases? >> >> > >> -- >> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > >> "lojban" group. >> > >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> > >>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/039gbB7uvNAJ. >> > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> > >> For more options, visit this group at >> > >>http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> > > -- >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > > "lojban" group. >> > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> > > For more options, visit this group at >> > >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> > -- >> > Alex R >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "lojban" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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