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Thank you for the thorough responses!

On Friday, July 13, 2012 11:16:25 AM UTC-5, tsani wrote:
>
> #2 {mi klama jai fi'ucisi'e [lo mu'e klama]} 
>
{jai} confuses me still about 60% of the times I see it. Could you explain 
this usage a bit more? 

>
> Using si'e implies *time* I'd say, because these MOI cmavo don't know 
> of the natural implications of "going" such as distance travelled, 
> etc.
>
This makes sense, for si'e comparing {lo nu}s to be comparing the temporal 
dimension. I'd even go as far as to say the subjectivity of time is implied 
-- that is, if I were to give the comparison, I'd be saying that I think of 
one event as half of the other event in some way. That would be first 
assumed to be in my own conception of the length of time, and if that made 
no sense, then some other dimension could be looked to. 

>
> #4 {la'e lo nu caba'o klama cu fi'uresi'e la'e lo mu'e klama} 
>
what on earth are you trying to do here?
({la'e} only confuses me 20% of the time nowadays) 

>
> We can possibly use {ni} to get a 
> "natural-ish-useful-context-dependent-measure-comparable-thing" thanks 
> to No One Understands ni (tm): 
> #5 {lo ni caba'o klama cu fi'uresi'e la'e lo mu'e klama} 
>
Oh, celestia. Please never do this. I like {ni}, and this seems like abuse. 
It would be referring to an amount of traveling, sure, but there's {ve 
klama} sitting right there...

What {ni} would be *good* for is if it needed to be explicit as to what 
scale was to be used. (time/space/length/etc) I'd totally approve of that.

>
> #6 {mi jai fi'u re si'e co ni klama xy} "I'm halfway to X." 
>
Yeah, aforementioned "I don't get {jai}" -- help?

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<div>Thank you for the thorough responses!</div><div><br></div>On Friday, J=
uly 13, 2012 11:16:25 AM UTC-5, tsani wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;paddin=
g-left: 1ex;">#2 {mi klama jai fi'ucisi'e [lo mu'e klama]}
<br></blockquote><div>{jai} confuses me still about 60% of the times I see =
it. Could you explain this usage a bit more?&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Using si'e implies *time* I'd say, because these MOI cmavo don't know
<br>of the natural implications of "going" such as distance travelled,
<br>etc.<br></blockquote><div>This makes sense, for si'e comparing {lo nu}s=
 to be comparing the temporal dimension. I'd even go as far as to say the s=
ubjectivity of time is implied -- that is, if I were to give the comparison=
, I'd be saying that I think of one event as half of the other event in som=
e way. That would be first assumed to be in my own conception of the length=
 of time, and if that made no sense, then some other dimension could be loo=
ked to.&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;mar=
gin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>#4 {la'e lo nu caba'o klama cu fi'uresi'e la'e lo mu'e klama}
<br></blockquote><div>what on earth are you trying to do here?</div><div>({=
la'e} only confuses me 20% of the time nowadays)&nbsp;</div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>We can possibly use {ni} to get a
<br>"natural-ish-useful-context-<wbr>dependent-measure-comparable-<wbr>thin=
g" thanks
<br>to No One Understands ni (tm):
<br>#5 {lo ni caba'o klama cu fi'uresi'e la'e lo mu'e klama}
<br></blockquote><div><ponifytext>Oh, <ponify title=3D"god">celestia</ponif=
y>. Please never do this. I like {ni}, and this seems like abuse. It would =
be referring to an amount of traveling, sure, but there's {ve klama} sittin=
g right there...</ponifytext></div><div><br></div><div>What {ni} would be <=
i>good</i>&nbsp;for is if it needed to be explicit as to what scale was to =
be used. (time/space/length/etc) I'd totally approve of that.</div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left=
: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>#6 {mi jai fi'u re si'e co ni klama xy} "I'm halfway to X."
<br></blockquote><div>Yeah, aforementioned "I don't get {jai}" -- help?</di=
v>

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