Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:48514) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sq8JU-0001fd-3F; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:47:37 -0700 Received: by ghbf16 with SMTP id f16sf5055851ghb.16 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:47:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ab8DOkEXarCJJT4xTphYX5ozJzdv9ZXX5P8GtyRzL9w=; b=m7/bKIwNwnt3KtBCcsBqVcqWMF/OmnkJt/OGjwyz6NBxYVKJMxj5TyAYAR3msEJnEX w3Y06M4sAFvDmcpQQCV17lSpKhve+5J2bkNbKkA6s/+zSYCK8xsjMmoPMp2PFG+irfrt WNerQbEdRids+mxZA5uworQUQh1hZ6dca56vo= Received: by 10.52.36.52 with SMTP id n20mr440512vdj.4.1342295249583; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:47:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.100.135 with SMTP id ey7ls2280653vdb.6.gmail; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.94.147 with SMTP id dc19mr441384vdb.17.1342295248865; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:47:28 -0700 (PDT) From: djandus To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <9f7b81ef-8273-4521-93e7-639d3859b314@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <5001AF4D.8070001@gmx.de> References: <5001AF4D.8070001@gmx.de> Subject: Re: [lojban] Pokemon translation MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: jandew@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jandew@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jandew@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1511_19380075.1342295248373" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1511_19380075.1342295248373 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Saturday, July 14, 2012 12:41:33 PM UTC-5, selpa'i wrote: > > Except it is isn't a zi'evla (for the reasons mentioned above). > I really like your reasoning, but the words we're defining right now are primarily for ((lai pokemon.)), the words that we would want to use in the real world for discussing pokemon. ((selci'a sera'a lai pokemon.)), the terms used in the game, are another matter. Most of the time, there, I'm thinking that {pok} isn't as necessary because of the same reason -- it's so commonplace that if I say a pokemon changed {ko'a binxo} I would first assume an evolution. Also, you have to remember that even though we make up terms for the game, should it be played, the terms will probably leak out. For example, I really like the idea story-wise of inventing a gismu like pokme for pokemon and the writing dialogue and story where the characters use it. It would make it feel very real and such. However, a reprecussion would be that players/readers would be very inclined to use pokme in real conversation, even if a fu'ivla existed, as it's the term they would see more often and have to interpret. In short, save it for the fanfiction ;P > > I like pure binxo. Evolving is so normal that nopony would call it > Pokemon evolution. > However, there is also farvi, which seems more precise. > ooh, farvi is very nice. However, what's the difference between farvi1 and farvi3? > > It also let's you talk about about "families": lo ve farvi are all the > stages of a Pokemon. > Yes, that's most excellent. mu'o mi'e djos. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/QuAxc5ev814J. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_1511_19380075.1342295248373 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, July 14, 2012 12:41:33 PM UTC-5, selpa'i wrote:
Except it is isn't a zi'evla (for the reasons= mentioned above).
I really like your reasoning, but t= he words we're defining right now are primarily for ((lai pokemon.)), the w= ords that we would want to use in the real world for discussing pokemon. ((= selci'a sera'a lai pokemon.)), the terms used in the game, are another matt= er. Most of the time, there, I'm thinking that {pok} isn't as necessary bec= ause of the same reason -- it's so commonplace that if I say a pokemon chan= ged {ko'a binxo} I would first assume an evolution.

Also, you have to remember that even though we make up terms for the game= , should it be played, the terms will probably leak out. For example, I rea= lly like the idea story-wise of inventing a gismu like pokme for pokemon an= d the writing dialogue and story where the characters use it. It would make= it feel very real and such. However, a reprecussion would be that players/= readers would be very inclined to use pokme in real conversation, even if a= fu'ivla existed, as it's the term they would see more often and have to in= terpret. In short, save it for the fanfiction ;P

I like pure binxo. Evolving is so normal that = nopony would call it 
Pokemon evolution.
However, there is also farvi, which seems more precise.
ooh, farvi is very nice. However, what's the differen= ce between farvi1 and farvi3?

It also let's you talk about about "families": lo ve farvi are all the= =20
stages of a Pokemon.
Yes, that's most excellent.

= mu'o mi'e djos.

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