Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:36054) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SqBWv-0002x8-IP; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:13:47 -0700 Received: by ghbf16 with SMTP id f16sf5203768ghb.16 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:13:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xHfP63eeKZ5/8TJKvboKp5FxKLjjesiUckYOGzJGu8k=; b=VR6tHVquKICeKGcQe+nm9XTspZ0bXU9vK2w2YPO0Igrk+fPgOrXBRbUjlZYkjf2xn9 8sbWdNO3YxCFGCAGFjioUQYy+DTXFsZPXnrnLylNnnOa+k7B9Ebl5Og6Ifa8gEsUGeHt nQwHEApzh6Jpinl1H3ASGC6BLTKcrFrNhfR5c= Received: by 10.68.134.71 with SMTP id pi7mr1000905pbb.19.1342307614047; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:13:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.226.132 with SMTP id rs4ls12738617pbc.6.gmail; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.240.101 with SMTP id vz5mr5759862pbc.4.1342307613554; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.240.101 with SMTP id vz5mr5759861pbc.4.1342307613526; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net. [213.165.64.22]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id vj10si2044504pbc.0.2012.07.14.16.13.32; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.22 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.22; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Jul 2012 23:13:32 -0000 Received: from p57A08DEC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.33]) [87.160.141.236] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 15 Jul 2012 01:13:32 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/4nPo5q6z4REDNXyhJhdLAnIVXb42MjpPyx2zWQf YW1EkpVZnEF9oD Message-ID: <5001FD1B.70109@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 01:13:31 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Pokemon translation References: <3f2de2b1-2297-4174-8f68-e2ff57969be2@googlegroups.com> <201207141744.16418.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: <201207141744.16418.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.22 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Am 14.07.2012 23:44, schrieb Pierre Abbat: > If you're making a lujvo, that would be "pokyjutsi"; "pokrjutsi" is a type-3 > fu'ivla. However, using "pok" as the rafsi for "pokmone" is contrary to the > rules of the language. Some fu'ivla have a rafsi formed by deleting the last > letter (which is necessarily a vowel), but no fu'ivla has a rafsi shorter > than that, and "pokmon" cannot be a rafsi because it's the concatenation of > two rafsi. I'd rather see you use "pok" as the rafsi of "pokme". That's true. If you strictly follow the normal rules, -pok- cannot be the rafsi of pokmone, but we are allowed flexibility as artists. The strict rafsi would be -pokmone'y-. Personally, I'm okay with both pokmone and pokme. As I already said, it only seems natural that a gismu would exist for "Pokemon" in a world where they are everywhere, plus it would be more closely following the rules of Lojban where only gismu can have 3-letter rafsi. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- .i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u .i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla .i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.