Received: from mail-wg0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:58124) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SqM0I-0006ul-LQ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 03:24:44 -0700 Received: by wgbdt10 with SMTP id dt10sf2940099wgb.16 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 03:24:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=gGbt+R2bPsgC9T4jsXPJ7waZ7XpnhJNEsGsjZFpFCYY=; b=5GtMc+FKBr8iBw7J571fm9gbD51oX5k3+X5nWaj9SdtZFB96jzShFP1e6vcUOa1lI1 rmg3e/CTper706YCrBCyG7DcQz7/os6/q3cc4Mjy9Oi5rkveJL2+TxRCXnU/5MmrfD95 8yptFauCRnHnA1LIoDYd980VSI5rPxgo3dupk= Received: by 10.180.96.129 with SMTP id ds1mr373049wib.2.1342347875149; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 03:24:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.200.203 with SMTP id z53ls5009507wen.5.gmail; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 03:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.88.195 with SMTP id bi3mr713924wib.3.1342347873452; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 03:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.88.195 with SMTP id bi3mr713923wib.3.1342347873437; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 03:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net. [213.165.64.23]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id ce10si1680859wib.1.2012.07.15.03.24.33; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 03:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.23; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Jul 2012 10:24:33 -0000 Received: from p57A081CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.33]) [87.160.129.202] by mail.gmx.net (mp039) with SMTP; 15 Jul 2012 12:24:33 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Xt7RCdIqXA8A9No3YwBbR4YXVSuHfPsA0GFuAot ohrVhTcFGw7pCV Message-ID: <50029A5F.2020909@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:24:31 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Pokemon translation References: <3f2de2b1-2297-4174-8f68-e2ff57969be2@googlegroups.com> <201207141744.16418.phma@phma.optus.nu> <5001FD1B.70109@gmx.de> <60287e7e-1727-42c7-a1cf-280d95a0422c@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <60287e7e-1727-42c7-a1cf-280d95a0422c@googlegroups.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040609050907090701080905" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040609050907090701080905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Am 15.07.2012 06:52, schrieb djandus: > After much thought, I've decided that the most elegant/sensible > solution in-game is to use a gismu for "Pokemon" > > However, I'm not entirely convinced it should be {pokme}. Given that > I've heard "Pokemon" said many ways, the possible lojbanizations I > see, in order of most-often-heard by me: > pokiman > pokyman > pokeman > > Given these, I think {pokma} is an obvious choice. (Hell, if you cheat > and put a buffer vowel in there...) > > So, I'm planning on using the in-game term: > pokma -pok- > x1 is a pokemon of species x2 and level x3 The problem is that you based it on (American) English pronunciation. The original name in Japanse was poketto monsutaa, so if you were to pick the beginning of the second word, it would have to be pokmo. pokme was suggested because it preserves the e from "pok*e*", which is the most important part of the name. So I would personally prefer pokme and even pokmo over pokma. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- .i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u .i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla .i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --------------040609050907090701080905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Am 15.07.2012 06:52, schrieb djandus:
After much thought, I've decided that the most elegant/sensible solution in-game is to use a gismu for "Pokemon"

However, I'm not entirely convinced it should be {pokme}. Given that I've heard "Pokemon" said many ways, the possible lojbanizations I see, in order of most-often-heard by me:
pokiman
pokyman
pokeman

Given these, I think {pokma} is an obvious choice. (Hell, if you cheat and put a buffer vowel in there...)

So, I'm planning on using the in-game term:
pokma -pok-
x1 is a pokemon of species x2 and level x3

The problem is that you based it on (American) English pronunciation. The original name in Japanse was poketto monsutaa, so if you were to pick the beginning of the second word, it would have to be pokmo.
pokme was suggested because it preserves the e from "poke", which is the most important part of the name. So I would personally prefer pokme and even pokmo over pokma.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
-- 
.i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u 
.i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla 
.i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata


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