Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:51686) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr8Rc-0004na-U6; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:08:22 -0700 Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4sf335244bkw.16 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:08:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=W6apGQfeZXbuZg8RwIG47BFajBl/AyvC9ZN7erZb+OA=; b=JvOXxG1WMqjQbNd5v075DvZ3s/Om0SmK9WcZkCDjO/DN2rfFxVzmTCMf4cGswiQJ4B rfSMSt3ZbEZLrUHKvTr/1ke9OmWmP88Z8pv/Cy9bbPbNXiWF6aoKxmrWOwO341BHhVYJ LcS7Paaw19sgbpVJWtWKMEtpLtmywbD2acqKQ= Received: by 10.180.105.232 with SMTP id gp8mr177570wib.0.1342534080982; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:08:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.228.99 with SMTP id e77ls405991weq.9.gmail; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.105.38 with SMTP id gj6mr362534wib.0.1342534079223; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.105.38 with SMTP id gj6mr362533wib.0.1342534079204; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-f47.google.com (mail-wg0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e5si2538393wiw.0.2012.07.17.07.07.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.47; Received: by wgbfa7 with SMTP id fa7so312626wgb.16 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.62.147 with SMTP id y19mr1599132wec.37.1342534078977; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:07:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.103.98 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:07:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2a315ff4-fb94-4f9c-a1b0-c1bcc63ba74b@d6g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> From: Sid Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:37:18 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Making echo while speeching To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cntrational@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cntrational@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / A bit late here, but unemphatic /t/ is pronouced [ts] in some varieties of Arabic, like Moroccan. mi'e cntr On 29 June 2012 14:42, iesk wrote: > On Friday, June 29, 2012 10:00:23 AM UTC+2, buro...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >> >> may this true for d lerfu... >> the pronounciaton 'ts' be pronounounced in one letter duration time not in >> two or more so we can distinguished by ts two letters or more such as ts in >> "tsani" will soken in two letters duration time, and so on... >> note: when prosody do with lojban will appear principles like this, at >> that time should persuade our selves by logic rules. > > > http://tatoeba.org/nds/sentences/show/1130843 -> any, we'll find someone > > I *think* you are trying to tell us that the /t/ phoneme will become an > affricate [ts] that will still be audibly different from /t/ + /s/. *wild > guessing* > > I don't know how you get that idea (if I did guess correctly). Maybe you > live in Denmark? But those people can't talk anyway, so we shouldn't model > Lojban on their speech. ;-p > > iesk > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/KeuRO5cEWj0J. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.