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[76.76.236.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z8sm20372544igi.5.2012.07.20.14.43.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5009D10D.6030204@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:43:41 -0500 From: vitci'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5Blojban=5D_Re=3A_lujvo_for_=22spelling=22=3F_=28was_Re=3A_=5Bloj?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ban=2Dbeginners=5D_How_do_you_write_=22Eyjafjallaj=F6kull=22=3F_=28a_sent?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ence_from_tatoeba=29=29?= References: <1b8bb927-a69e-4fc1-a85d-97c4203b751d@googlegroups.com> <5009A007.2030107@gmail.com> <5009C826.2090108@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: celestialcognition@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of celestialcognition@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=celestialcognition@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / If I understand correctly, then: {zoi .ler. by ry .obu dy .abu .ler. cu lerpoi fi zo broda} On 07/20/2012 04:17 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > That definition has 0 votes and therefore doesn't count. > > Quoting a previous message in this thread: > > {vlale'u} doesn't seem useful, but both {vlakemlerpoi} and {lerpoi} do. >> My proposed definitions of lerpoi and vlakemlerpoi: >> >> #1a .i lo ka lerpoi cu ka ce'u noi fa'ugi lu'a ke'a gi lu'o ke'a lerfu >> ce'u fa'u zi'o zi'o fa'u ce'u cu porsi zi'o zi'o >> "x1 is a character string (sequence of letters) in character set x2 >> representing x3." >> porsi2 and porsi3 seem irrelevant. The fa'u-hackage is required, >> because individually the letters-digits-symbols are a part of the >> character set, but as a sequence or mass, aren't. However, >> individually, they don't represent anything, but as a mass, they do. >> The definition can be given with a termset rather than the non-logical >> connective {fa'u}: >> #1b .i lo ka lerpoi cu ka ce'u noi nu'i ge lu'a ke'a ce'u zi'o nu'u gi >> lu'o ke'a zi'o ce'u lerfu cu porsi zi'o zi'o >> >> (for simplicity's sake, I'm not going to give the full gismu-deep >> structure of vlakemlerpoi) >> #2 .i lo ka vlakemlerpoi cu ka ce'u lerpoi ce'u ce'u noi ke'a valsi ce'u >> ce'u >> "x1 is a string in character set x3 representing word x3 meaning x4 in >> language x5." >> or "x1 is the spelling of x3." >> >> mu'o mi'e la tsani > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM, vitci'i wrote: > >> jbovlaste's definition for lerpoi doesn't seem to have a place for the >> word formed by the sequence of letters. I have to repeat iesk's question. >> >> On 07/20/2012 01:24 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>> The consensus is on lerpoi. >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:14 PM, vitci'i >> wrote: >>>> I can't find it on vlasisku. I'd like to nominate {lerfu mifra} for >>>> veljvo. (cf. lertermifra, character encoding.) >>>> >>>> On 07/20/2012 01:04 PM, iesk wrote: >>>>> I'm sorry if I missed it, but ... *how do* I say '"broda" is spelt bee, >>>>> ar, o, dee, a." in Lojban? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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