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Il giorno , selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> ha scritto:
> I would have not guessed it because in "Psittaciformes" the "ci" doesn't =
=20
> sound like {ki} but more like {tci}.
>> Only in the new Italian/Church Latin pronunciation. "ci" is {ki} in =20
>> classical latin. Plus, the word comes from the Ancient Greek word =20
>> =F8=E9=F4=F4=E1=EA=FC=F2 (psittakos).

It might be but, as Italian, I think that using {ki} for latin "ci" is, at =
=20
least, confusing,

remod

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Il giorno , selpa&#39;i &lt;seladwa@gmx.de&gt; ha scritto:<br />&gt; I woul=
d have not guessed it because in &quot;Psittaciformes&quot; the &quot;ci&qu=
ot; doesn&#39;t sound like {ki} but more like {tci}.<br />&gt;&gt; Only in =
the new Italian/Church Latin pronunciation. &quot;ci&quot; is {ki} in class=
ical latin. Plus, the word comes from the Ancient Greek word =F8=E9=F4=F4=
=E1=EA=FC=F2 (psittakos).<br /><br />It might be but, as Italian, I think t=
hat using {ki} for latin &quot;ci&quot; is, at least, confusing, <br /><br =
/>remod

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