Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:47300) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1StIqy-0005ya-JL; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:39:23 -0700 Received: by ghbf16 with SMTP id f16sf7559522ghb.16 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=oN9ZpndmbGHXWAHy72gkL12u4aaWqO29CkblG5oG2Qs=; b=WgD4ixeCLdQ+l4uZ4ZQP0j40lt8NdtEzAT9J8RO7otob4RJpAod4Jf3ELlMV30wZgt LR1DWVu2udbT59PFVjToREE16X96EZRXBH8ToESkHwk3J8vnOIN1RMbzL1cCgz05D3wi NOav1K95bSizIH9Q+aJQeIPjmtIdgMdjxyOis= Received: by 10.224.18.20 with SMTP id u20mr2246696qaa.7.1343050749785; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:39:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.178.19 with SMTP id bk19ls7396929qcb.0.gmail; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.39.72 with SMTP id f8mr9062480qae.7.1343050749023; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.39.72 with SMTP id f8mr9062479qae.7.1343050749008; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-f42.google.com (mail-qa0-f42.google.com [209.85.216.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z30si2429669qcd.3.2012.07.23.06.39.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.42; Received: by mail-qa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i31so1594066qaf.1 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:39:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.135.12 with SMTP id l12mr7041835qct.111.1343050748732; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.39.211 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:39:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <500D51B8.3020006@gmx.de> References: <4FE8CBA3.5070103@gmx.de> <4FF1B1FB.7010605@gmx.de> <4FF31027.7010608@gmx.de> <4FF32BCD.7050608@gmx.de> <4FF34B59.6060005@gmx.de> <4FFF49EE.1070207@gmx.de> <500D51B8.3020006@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:39:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la snime blabi From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00248c7117c7cb243b04c57f5e1b X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --00248c7117c7cb243b04c57f5e1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:29 AM, selpa'i wrote: > Am 23.07.2012 15:21, schrieb Michael Turniansky: > > "lo torcrida tai gleki se mu'i lo nu cikygau na gi'e sipna stali curmi" > "lu ta'i ma nerkla lo mi'a zdani =97sei lo torcrida cu stali retsku li'u" > > It seems to me that you are trying to use "stali" in a sense of "to > continue to do something". That's not what it means. It means to remain > with or at someplace ("he remained home", "The smell of grapes linger on > his hands") You are probably more interested in the tense "ca'o" or the > gismu "ranji". > > > I meant stodi. > > Okay. Next one: i ku'i lo noltruni'u ba lo nu citka lo fepri .e lo livga vu'o noi ny krici fi ke'a fe lo du'u pagbu la snime blabi cu jinvi lo du'u di'a ku pa moi lo melbi gi'e mlerai Absolutely nothing wrong here, and it's purely a stylistic choice, but just wondering why you didn't use the simpler "....ny krici lo du'u [ke'a] pagbu la snime blabi...", which would have accomplished the same thing, without having to bring in the "fi ke'a", which then necessitated you also adding in the word "fe". --gejyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --00248c7117c7cb243b04c57f5e1b Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at= 9:29 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
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Am 23.07.2012 15:21, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
=A0"lo torcrida tai gleki se mu'i lo nu cikygau na gi'e sipna = stali curmi"
"= lu ta'i ma nerkla lo mi'a zdani =97sei lo torcrida cu st= ali retsku li'u"

=A0 It seems to me that you are trying to use "stali" = =A0in a sense of "to continue to do something". =A0That'= ;s not what it means. =A0It means to remain with or at someplace ("h= e remained home", "The smell of grapes linger on his = hands") You are probably more interested in the tense "ca'o&= quot; or the gismu "ranji".

I meant stodi.


= =A0 Okay. =A0

=A0 Next one: =A0i ku'i lo noltruni'u ba lo= nu citka lo fepri .e lo livga vu'o noi ny krici fi ke'a fe lo du&#= 39;u pagbu la snime blabi cu jinvi lo du'u di'a ku pa moi lo melbi = gi'e mlerai=A0

=A0 Absolutely nothing wrong here, and it's purely = a stylistic choice, but just wondering why you didn't use the simpler &= quot;....ny krici lo du'u [ke'a] pagbu la snime blabi...", whi= ch would have accomplished the same thing, without having to bring in the &= quot;fi ke'a", which then necessitated you also adding in the word= "fe".
=A0 =A0 --gejyspa

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