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Subject: Re: [lojban] la snime blabi
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"lu doi ga'i nai noltruni'u do vi mlerai
.i ku'i la snime blabi ne ti'a lo cmana
zi'e ne bu'u lo ze torcrida
cu mlemau fo lo pilji be li ki'o"

  How could the queen be at the same time most beautiful and Snow White yet
more beautiful?  (Well, of course, the answer is dependent on what the se
mlerai is.  If we presume it was the same as the queen's question (lo ro se
gugde), the Snow White must perforce not be in that set, so she is not a
member of that country's peoples. ;-) )  (Actually, the more accurate
response would be "...do vi mlerai da'a lo se go'i....", but I'm not
inclined to split hairs (yeah, right!)
      --gejyspa


On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:29 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>>  Am 23.07.2012 15:21, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
>>
>>  "lo torcrida tai gleki se mu'i lo nu cikygau na gi'e sipna stali curmi"
>> "lu ta'i ma nerkla lo mi'a zdani =97sei lo torcrida cu stali retsku li'u=
"
>>
>>    It seems to me that you are trying to use "stali"  in a sense of "to
>> continue to do something".  That's not what it means.  It means to remai=
n
>> with or at someplace ("he remained home", "The smell of grapes linger on
>> his hands") You are probably more interested in the tense "ca'o" or the
>> gismu "ranji".
>>
>>
>> I meant stodi.
>>
>>
>   Okay.
>
>   Next one:  i ku'i lo noltruni'u ba lo nu citka lo fepri .e lo livga
> vu'o noi ny krici fi ke'a fe lo du'u pagbu la snime blabi cu jinvi lo du'=
u
> di'a ku pa moi lo melbi gi'e mlerai
>
>   Absolutely nothing wrong here, and it's purely a stylistic choice, but
> just wondering why you didn't use the simpler "....ny krici lo du'u [ke'a=
]
> pagbu la snime blabi...", which would have accomplished the same thing,
> without having to bring in the "fi ke'a", which then necessitated you als=
o
> adding in the word "fe".
>     --gejyspa
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"text-align:center">&quot;<span style=3D"back=
ground-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:12px;line-height:18px;text-align:center">lu doi ga&#39;i nai noltruni&#39=
;u do vi mlerai</span></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-heig=
ht:18px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-align:center">.i ku&#39;i la=
 snime blabi ne ti&#39;a lo cmana</div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Ar=
ial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:18px;background-color:rgb(255,255=
,255);text-align:center">
zi&#39;e ne bu&#39;u lo ze torcrida</div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:18px;background-color:rgb(255,2=
55,255);text-align:center">cu mlemau fo lo pilji be li ki&#39;o&quot;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-heig=
ht:18px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-align:center"><br></div><div=
 style=3D"text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face=3D"=
Verdana, Arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:18px"=
>=A0 How could the queen be at the same time most beautiful and Snow=A0Whit=
e=A0yet more beautiful? =A0(Well, of course, the answer is dependent on wha=
t the se mlerai is. =A0If we presume it was the same as the queen&#39;s que=
stion (lo ro se gugde), the Snow White must perforce not be in that set, so=
 she is not a member of that country&#39;s peoples. ;-) ) =A0(Actually, the=
 more accurate response would be &quot;...do vi mlerai da&#39;a lo se go&#3=
9;i....&quot;, but I&#39;m not inclined to split hairs (yeah, right!)</span=
></font></div>
<div style=3D"text-align:left;font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:12px;line-height:18px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">=A0 =A0 =A0 --ge=
jyspa</div><div style=3D"text-align:left;font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-ser=
if;font-size:12px;line-height:18px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:39 AM, M=
ichael Turniansky <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mturniansky@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank">mturniansky@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Mo=
n, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:29 AM, selpa&#39;i <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:seladwa@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">seladwa@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    <tt>Am 23.07.2012 15:21, schrieb Michael Turniansky:<br>
    </tt><div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div dir=3D"ltr"><tt><span style=3D"line-height:18px;text-align:left;=
font-size:12px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif">=A0&quot;lo
            torcrida tai gleki se mu&#39;i lo nu cikygau na gi&#39;e sipna =
stali
            curmi&quot;</span></tt>
        <div style=3D"text-align:left">
          <tt><span style=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:18px">&quot;</span>=
<span style=3D"line-height:18px;font-size:12px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,sa=
ns-serif">lu
              ta&#39;i ma nerkla lo mi&#39;a zdani =97sei lo torcrida cu st=
ali
              retsku li&#39;u&quot;</span></tt></div>
        <div style=3D"text-align:left"><tt><span style=3D"line-height:18px;=
font-size:12px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif"><br>
            </span></tt></div>
        <div style=3D"text-align:left"><tt><span style=3D"line-height:18px;=
font-size:12px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif">=A0
              It seems to me that you are trying to use &quot;stali&quot; =
=A0in a
              sense of &quot;to continue to do something&quot;. =A0That&#39=
;s not what
              it means. =A0It means to remain with or at someplace (&quot;h=
e
              remained home&quot;, &quot;The smell of grapes linger on his =
hands&quot;)
              You are probably more interested in the tense &quot;ca&#39;o&=
quot; or
              the gismu &quot;ranji&quot;.</span></tt></div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    </div><tt><br>
      I meant stodi. <br><br></tt></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><=
div>=A0 Okay. =A0</div><div><br></div><div>=A0 Next one: =A0<span style=3D"=
line-height:18px;text-align:left;font-size:12px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,s=
ans-serif">i ku&#39;i lo noltruni&#39;u ba lo nu citka lo fepri .e lo livga=
 vu&#39;o noi ny krici fi ke&#39;a fe lo du&#39;u pagbu la snime blabi cu j=
invi lo du&#39;u di&#39;a ku pa moi lo melbi gi&#39;e mlerai</span>=A0</div=
>

<div><br></div><div>=A0 Absolutely nothing wrong here, and it&#39;s purely =
a stylistic choice, but just wondering why you didn&#39;t use the simpler &=
quot;....ny krici lo du&#39;u [ke&#39;a] pagbu la snime blabi...&quot;, whi=
ch would have accomplished the same thing, without having to bring in the &=
quot;fi ke&#39;a&quot;, which then necessitated you also adding in the word=
 &quot;fe&quot;.</div>

<div>=A0 =A0 --gejyspa</div><div><br></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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