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Am 23.07.2012 15:39, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:29 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de=20
> <mailto:seladwa@gmx.de>> wrote:
>
>     Am 23.07.2012 15:21, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
>>      "lo torcrida tai gleki se mu'i lo nu cikygau na gi'e sipna stali
>>     curmi"
>>     "lu ta'i ma nerkla lo mi'a zdani =97sei lo torcrida cu stali retsku
>>     li'u"
>>
>>     It seems to me that you are trying to use "stali"  in a sense of
>>     "to continue to do something".  That's not what it means.  It
>>     means to remain with or at someplace ("he remained home", "The
>>     smell of grapes linger on his hands") You are probably more
>>     interested in the tense "ca'o" or the gismu "ranji".
>
>     I meant stodi.
>
>
>   Okay.
>
>   Next one: i ku'i lo noltruni'u ba lo nu citka lo fepri .e lo livga=20
> vu'o noi ny krici fi ke'a fe lo du'u pagbu la snime blabi cu jinvi lo=20
> du'u di'a ku pa moi lo melbi gi'e mlerai
>
>   Absolutely nothing wrong here, and it's purely a stylistic choice,=20
> but just wondering why you didn't use the simpler "....ny krici lo=20
> du'u [ke'a] pagbu la snime blabi...", which would have accomplished=20
> the same thing, without having to bring in the "fi ke'a", which then=20
> necessitated you also adding in the word "fe".

Stylistic choice. I just like the construction. I don't always go for=20
the shortest possible sentence. I like how the fi ke'a version first=20
introduces the subject and then talks about it in more detail.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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.i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u
.i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla
.i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata

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    <tt>Am 23.07.2012 15:39, schrieb Michael Turniansky:<br>
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        <div class=3D"gmail_quote"><tt>On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:29 AM,
            selpa'i <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
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            <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"> <tt>Am 23.07.2012
                15:21, schrieb Michael Turniansky:<br>
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                  <div dir=3D"ltr"><tt><span
style=3D"line-height:18px;text-align:left;font-size:12px;font-family:Verdan=
a,Arial,sans-serif">=A0"lo

                        torcrida tai gleki se mu'i lo nu cikygau na gi'e
                        sipna stali curmi"</span></tt>
                    <div style=3D"text-align:left"> <tt><span
                          style=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:18px">"</span=
><span
style=3D"line-height:18px;font-size:12px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-ser=
if">lu

                          ta'i ma nerkla lo mi'a zdani =97sei lo torcrida
                          cu stali retsku li'u"</span></tt></div>
                    <div style=3D"text-align:left"><tt><span
style=3D"line-height:18px;font-size:12px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-ser=
if"><br>
                        </span></tt></div>
                    <div style=3D"text-align:left"><tt><span
style=3D"line-height:18px;font-size:12px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-ser=
if">=A0
                          It seems to me that you are trying to use
                          "stali" =A0in a sense of "to continue to do
                          something". =A0That's not what it means. =A0It
                          means to remain with or at someplace ("he
                          remained home", "The smell of grapes linger on
                          his hands") You are probably more interested
                          in the tense "ca'o" or the gismu "ranji".</span><=
/tt></div>
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              <tt><br>
                I meant stodi. <br>
                <br>
              </tt></div>
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            </tt></div>
          <div><tt>=A0 Okay. =A0</tt></div>
          <div><tt><br>
            </tt></div>
          <div><tt>=A0 Next one: =A0<span
style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:12px;line-height:18px;text-align:left">i
                ku'i lo noltruni'u ba lo nu citka lo fepri .e lo livga
                vu'o noi ny krici fi ke'a fe lo du'u pagbu la snime
                blabi cu jinvi lo du'u di'a ku pa moi lo melbi gi'e
                mlerai</span>=A0</tt></div>
          <div><tt><br>
            </tt></div>
          <div><tt>=A0 Absolutely nothing wrong here, and it's purely a
              stylistic choice, but just wondering why you didn't use
              the simpler "....ny krici lo du'u [ke'a] pagbu la snime
              blabi...", which would have accomplished the same thing,
              without having to bring in the "fi ke'a", which then
              necessitated you also adding in the word "fe".</tt></div>
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    <tt><br>
      Stylistic choice. I just like the construction. I don't always go
      for the shortest possible sentence. I like how the fi ke'a version
      first introduces the subject and then talks about it in more
      detail.<br>
      <br>
      mu'o mi'e la selpa'i<br>
    </tt>
    <pre class=3D"moz-signature" cols=3D"72"><tt>--=20
.i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u=20
.i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla=20
.i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata</tt></pre>
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