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[213.165.64.23]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id cx9si1835152wib.0.2012.07.23.06.59.56; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.23; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Jul 2012 13:59:55 -0000 Received: from p57A09587.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.33]) [87.160.149.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 23 Jul 2012 15:59:55 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+jfDUyts6j8IUsGsF1fU5CAWfMust07KBe+JvAwR QqdhqF91I1Aovn Message-ID: <500D58DA.7040107@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:59:54 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] la snime blabi References: <4FF1B1FB.7010605@gmx.de> <4FF31027.7010608@gmx.de> <4FF32BCD.7050608@gmx.de> <4FF34B59.6060005@gmx.de> <4FFF49EE.1070207@gmx.de> <500D51B8.3020006@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050202060205000909050609" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050202060205000909050609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Am 23.07.2012 15:48, schrieb Michael Turniansky: > "lu doi ga'i nai noltruni'u do vi mlerai > .i ku'i la snime blabi ne ti'a lo cmana > zi'e ne bu'u lo ze torcrida > cu mlemau fo lo pilji be li ki'o" > > How could the queen be at the same time most beautiful and > Snow White yet more beautiful? (Well, of course, the answer is > dependent on what the se mlerai is. If we presume it was the same as > the queen's question (lo ro se gugde), the Snow White must perforce > not be in that set, so she is not a member of that country's peoples. > ;-) ) (Actually, the more accurate response would be "...do vi mlerai > da'a lo se go'i....", but I'm not inclined to split hairs (yeah, right!) .u'i. That would destroy the effect the original has. They are obviously not in the same set. The mirror knows this and says "You are the prettiest of the people around here (implicit), but Snow White exceeds you". The mirror uses two sets because it is necessary to distinguish or else it loses the effect / parallelism to the original. lo jbogu'e cu jai bu'u ta'e ralci tcila lanli .i mi na se spaji mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- .i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u .i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla .i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --------------050202060205000909050609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 23.07.2012 15:48, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
"lu doi ga'i nai noltruni'u do vi mlerai
.i ku'i la snime blabi ne ti'a lo cmana
zi'e ne bu'u lo ze torcrida
cu mlemau fo lo pilji be li ki'o"

=A0 How could the queen be at the same time most beautiful and Snow=A0White=A0yet more beautiful? =A0(Well, of course, the answer is dependent on what the se mlerai is. =A0If we presume it was the same as the queen's question (lo ro se gugde), the Snow White must perforce not be in that set, so she is not a member of that country's peoples. ;-) ) =A0(Actually, the more accurate response would be "...do vi mlerai da'a lo se go'i....", but I'm not inclined to split hairs (yeah, right!)

.u'i. That would destroy the effect the original has. They are obviously not in the same set. The mirror knows this and says "You are the prettiest of the people around here (implicit), but Snow White exceeds you". The mirror uses two sets because it is necessary to distinguish or else it loses the effect / parallelism to the original.

lo jbogu'e cu jai bu'u ta'e ralci tcila lanli .i mi na se spaji

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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.i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u=20
.i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla=20
.i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata

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