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On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:59 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:

>  Am 23.07.2012 15:48, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
>
>  "lu doi ga'i nai noltruni'u do vi mlerai
> .i ku'i la snime blabi ne ti'a lo cmana
> zi'e ne bu'u lo ze torcrida
> cu mlemau fo lo pilji be li ki'o"
>
>    How could the queen be at the same time most beautiful and
> Snow White yet more beautiful?  (Well, of course, the answer is dependent
> on what the se mlerai is.  If we presume it was the same as the queen's
> question (lo ro se gugde), the Snow White must perforce not be in that set,
> so she is not a member of that country's peoples. ;-) )  (Actually, the
> more accurate response would be "...do vi mlerai da'a lo se go'i....", but
> I'm not inclined to split hairs (yeah, right!)
>
>
> .u'i. That would destroy the effect the original has. They are obviously
> not in the same set. The mirror knows this and says "You are the prettiest
> of the people around here (implicit), but Snow White exceeds you". The
> mirror uses two sets because it is necessary to distinguish or else it
> loses the effect / parallelism to the original.
>
> lo jbogu'e cu jai bu'u ta'e ralci tcila lanli .i mi na se spaji
>
>
>   But, actually, I don't think I've ever seen an (English) version of the
story where the mirror's response at this point in the story is that the
queen is the fairest/prettiest.  Usually that she is fair, but Snow is
fairer by far.  So even those authors recognize the mirror can't use
the superlative regarding the queen.

        --gejyspa

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<div dir=3D"ltr">=A0 I<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 23, 20=
12 at 9:59 AM, selpa&#39;i <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:seladwa@=
gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">seladwa@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">

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    <tt>Am 23.07.2012 15:48, schrieb Michael Turniansky:<br>
    </tt><div class=3D"im">
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div style=3D"text-align:center"><tt>&quot;<span style=3D"line-heig=
ht:18px;text-align:center;font-size:12px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-ser=
if">lu
              doi ga&#39;i nai noltruni&#39;u do vi mlerai</span></tt></div=
>
        <div style=3D"line-height:18px;text-align:center;font-size:12px;fon=
t-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif"><tt>.i
            ku&#39;i la snime blabi ne ti&#39;a lo cmana</tt></div>
        <div style=3D"line-height:18px;text-align:center;font-size:12px;fon=
t-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif"><tt>zi&#39;e
            ne bu&#39;u lo ze torcrida</tt></div>
        <div style=3D"line-height:18px;text-align:center;font-size:12px;fon=
t-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif"><tt>cu
            mlemau fo lo pilji be li ki&#39;o&quot;</tt></div>
        <div style=3D"line-height:18px;text-align:center;font-size:12px;fon=
t-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif"><tt><br>
          </tt></div>
        <div style=3D"text-align:left"><tt><span style=3D"font-size:12px;li=
ne-height:18px">=A0 How could the
              queen be at the same time most beautiful and
              Snow=A0White=A0yet more beautiful? =A0(Well, of course, the
              answer is dependent on what the se mlerai is. =A0If we
              presume it was the same as the queen&#39;s question (lo ro se
              gugde), the Snow White must perforce not be in that set,
              so she is not a member of that country&#39;s peoples. ;-) )
              =A0(Actually, the more accurate response would be &quot;...do=
 vi
              mlerai da&#39;a lo se go&#39;i....&quot;, but I&#39;m not inc=
lined to split
              hairs (yeah, right!)</span></tt></div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    </div><tt><br>
      .u&#39;i. That would destroy the effect the original has. They are
      obviously not in the same set. The mirror knows this and says &quot;Y=
ou
      are the prettiest of the people around here (implicit), but Snow
      White exceeds you&quot;. The mirror uses two sets because it is
      necessary to distinguish or else it loses the effect / parallelism
      to the original. <br>
      <br>
      lo jbogu&#39;e cu jai bu&#39;u ta&#39;e ralci tcila lanli .i mi na se=
 spaji<div class=3D"im"><br><br></div></tt></div></blockquote><div>=A0 But,=
 actually, I don&#39;t think I&#39;ve ever seen an (English) version of the=
 story where the mirror&#39;s response at this point in the story is that t=
he queen is the fairest/prettiest. =A0Usually that she is fair, but Snow is=
 fairer by far. =A0So even those authors recognize the mirror can&#39;t use=
 the=A0superlative=A0regarding the queen.</div>
<div><br></div><div>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa</div></div></div>

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