Received: from mail-vc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:50379) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1StaXp-0006OX-7I; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:32:47 -0700 Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10sf8830152vcb.16 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:32:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ufINuMPcPSUixshUohBhUZkVWeuZC8o5/IAAf0Z8d7M=; b=XVNikexLa9HABhj9pgBvHwSm+T5NF7HZOpkgKG9U7EY+Nvc2QE+ohPsYmN6jibMMoN //R8QQzd+jEj6Fhy6hh7huexiYUQ1B09LThZUBwvwVqcR5rAqb3ZRBkXCZGT1GB3T8uf cqvh6Gt590sBUfMSeP4LyCXTZ9TzHNH0UO85M= Received: by 10.236.191.197 with SMTP id g45mr3502008yhn.7.1343118754214; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:32:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.126.33 with SMTP id a21ls3281675yhi.3.gmail; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.157.234 with SMTP id o70mr1557764yhk.4.1343118753455; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.157.234 with SMTP id o70mr1557761yhk.4.1343118753444; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f49.google.com (mail-yw0-f49.google.com [209.85.213.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t29si4264466yha.0.2012.07.24.01.32.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.49; Received: by yhjj52 with SMTP id j52so7614559yhj.8 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:32:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.189.73 with SMTP id dd9mr13511269icb.49.1343118753223; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.15.74 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:32:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:32:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Translation of "ze" From: Escape Landsome To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: escaaape@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=escaaape@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / 2012/7/23 Jacob Errington : > {ba'e} ? > I'm a native francophone, and usage of "ze" like that is just a matter > of emphasis, in my experience. Yes, it's a kind of emphatic. Yet I find it is often an archetypic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.