Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:51053) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SthIB-0003hm-FG; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:45:08 -0700 Received: by yhoo21 with SMTP id o21sf9273448yho.16 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:44:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=fX3AQTz6K+LoTSdkM81xD0HIPUK2v1K6J2B2caKZiYg=; b=RXDFj/i4jh2DM8/yMyZ75IEMRd5nFub2PLXqWDWAISMWKwfA7U0ENJv8Fb7qQxbxwL YRK7Ottos12jKPGfLpdXDk0MM5Zmbtfwap7LQZ58KUYsOE9M5ewtSW/FggCkPKhth2sw bxx196P3fMueO1gssyFOekYNOQgqF67G3PK7E= Received: by 10.52.71.36 with SMTP id r4mr1097683vdu.3.1343144692785; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:44:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.100.37 with SMTP id ev5ls2194148vdb.8.gmail; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.39.72 with SMTP id f8mr12227932qae.7.1343144692149; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.39.72 with SMTP id f8mr12227928qae.7.1343144692131; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qc0-f173.google.com (mail-qc0-f173.google.com [209.85.216.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ft6si3302635qcb.0.2012.07.24.08.44.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.173; Received: by mail-qc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id b12so3870930qca.4 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:44:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.221.75 with SMTP id ib11mr24683829qab.94.1343144692006; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.39.211 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:44:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4FF31027.7010608@gmx.de> <4FF32BCD.7050608@gmx.de> <4FF34B59.6060005@gmx.de> <4FFF49EE.1070207@gmx.de> <500D51B8.3020006@gmx.de> <500D58DA.7040107@gmx.de> <500D60F7.8030708@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:44:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la snime blabi From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3074b5a03fbe8404c5953e7a X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf3074b5a03fbe8404c5953e7a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ".i ny za'u re'u pensi lo nu ta'i ma kau catra kei mu'i lo nu co'u lo nu ca'a mlerai be ro lo selgu'e cu na surla kakne ri'a lo nu jilra" (first, I should note that on a grammatical note, genrei doesn't like it without a "boi" or "cu" between "ny" and "re'u" since they otherwise form into a single lerfu string. jboski (online jbofi'e), OTOH, has no problem with it. I"m not sure what the "correct" interpretation is according to the formal grammar) pensi-2's are normally considered to be ideas, not events, so it should be si'o, not nu, for those who are pedantic about such stuff. But more importantly, I'm again having trouble getting the proper sense of the sentence. I think you are trying to say that she is once again thinking about how to kill (Snow White) because she is not able to relax because she is no longer the most beautiful in the land, due to her jealousy. Which I guess works, but it's real hard for me to puzzle out the convolutions of the sentence due to the nested modals and tenses --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf3074b5a03fbe8404c5953e7a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
".i ny za'u re'u pensi lo nu ta'i ma kau catra kei mu= 9;i lo nu co'u lo nu ca'a mlerai be ro lo selgu'e cu na surla k= akne ri'a lo nu jilra"

(first, = I should note that on a grammatical note, genrei doesn't like it withou= t a "boi" or "cu" between "ny" and "re&#= 39;u" since they otherwise form into a single lerfu string. =A0jboski = (online jbofi'e), OTOH, has no problem with it. =A0I"m not sure wh= at the "correct" interpretation is according to the formal gramma= r)

pen= si-2's are normally considered to be ideas, not events, so it should be= si'o, not nu, for those who are pedantic about such stuff. =A0But more= importantly, I'm again having trouble getting the proper sense of the = sentence. =A0I think you are trying to say that she is once again thinking = about how to kill (Snow White) because she is not able to relax because =A0= she is no longer the most beautiful in the land, due to her jealousy. =A0Wh= ich I guess works, but it's real hard for me to puzzle out the convolut= ions of the sentence due to the nested modals and tenses

=A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa

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