Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:45444) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sti9M-00044s-TJ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:40:06 -0700 Received: by fadw1 with SMTP id w1sf4964881fad.16 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:39:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IfUZuKV5cF5A4WXyi5kkRPSTjVd6v7i4FCS5E/WZz98=; b=ynVT0yCom3iB0VGj/dtwislPwfdWFIH/7LqcagbgZXKiNIQLQMgzZ/h0CVWXlK1ryN apOALN16jlo6XNjp+vZsVIKgyxHT18wcb0TmApFIgqpYpt/1NLoF5JUNZhK9wgsLtB/z LyaW0C0YXoNsSuB4meUGx11JQK8cZnqfqnjoE= Received: by 10.216.242.70 with SMTP id h48mr188086wer.8.1343147988601; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:39:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.228.99 with SMTP id e77ls6255573weq.9.gmail; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.95.2 with SMTP id dg2mr829131wib.2.1343147986798; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.95.2 with SMTP id dg2mr829130wib.2.1343147986786; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net. [213.165.64.23]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id em7si747444wib.2.2012.07.24.09.39.46; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.23; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Jul 2012 16:39:46 -0000 Received: from p57A08D5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.33]) [87.160.141.95] by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 24 Jul 2012 18:39:46 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+lX8cAWU+lm1ikIBao2aU4RjMFiqMKbynZVd/mhC PcJMdsh3ucfN0B Message-ID: <500ECFD0.8060107@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:39:44 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] la snime blabi References: <4FFF49EE.1070207@gmx.de> <500D51B8.3020006@gmx.de> <500D58DA.7040107@gmx.de> <500D60F7.8030708@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080504030805060702080703" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080504030805060702080703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 24.07.2012 18:09, schrieb Michael Turniansky: > " i tai ku klama fo lo ze cmana fe lo ze torcrida gi'e snadarxi lo=20 > vorme gi'e lausku =ABlu lo xamgu ve pleji cu se friti li'u=BB " > > Pedantry again -- shouldn't that be "...fe _lo zdani be_ lo ze=20 > torcrida..."? She didn't go to the dwarves at all. This was again carried over from the original where it does say that she=20 goes to the seven dwarfs. The point of this is leitmotif. The phrase=20 "across the seven mountains to the seven dwarfs", which rhymes in the=20 original German, appears several times throughout the story. Inserting a=20 "house of" (zdani be lo) would break up this pattern. Of course, from a nitpicky point of view, you are right, she does not go=20 to the seven dwarfs, she goes to Snow White. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i --=20 .i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u .i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla .i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --------------080504030805060702080703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Am 24.07.2012 18:09, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
" i tai ku klama fo lo ze cmana fe lo ze torcrida gi'e snadarxi lo vorme gi'e lausku «lu lo xamgu ve pleji cu se friti li'u» "

Pedantry again -- shouldn't that be "...fe _lo zdani be_ lo ze torcrida..."?  She didn't go to the dwarves at all.    

This was again carried over from the original where it does say that she goes to the seven dwarfs. The point of this is leitmotif. The phrase "across the seven mountains to the seven dwarfs", which rhymes in the original German, appears several times throughout the story. Inserting a "house of" (zdani be lo) would break up this pattern.
Of course, from a nitpicky point of view, you are right, she does not go to the seven dwarfs, she goes to Snow White.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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.i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u 
.i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla 
.i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata

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