Received: from mail-lb0-f189.google.com ([209.85.217.189]:36507) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sto0A-0007NL-FH; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:55:01 -0700 Received: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5sf112173lbo.16 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:54:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=PLJZAB2DLXddawYd0FeyDpWw5SMpgLWi07c2Ov5NPDY=; b=GMfavk58N+8+u91Z8Snpet4eNdlkd3g+4XkUncVMl7a1PgXJY4UqGrW27NrdaaBxrF MBarKkpT7vFb5ROpxMG2hF8VJYmUAppwj0ExwoM+lkFCKuJn5jTKDlccwm9c95rC+gUf rWm7R2rZXgVzWnkTGzXcXgXQjJxuIArnMEPuo= Received: by 10.204.129.7 with SMTP id m7mr1079890bks.17.1343170481975; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:54:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.4.74 with SMTP id 10ls32360bkq.0.gmail; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.152.23 with SMTP id e23mr4702438bkw.6.1343170480137; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.152.23 with SMTP id e23mr4702437bkw.6.1343170480118; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f50.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e23si4897144bks.0.2012.07.24.15.54.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.50; Received: by lahm15 with SMTP id m15so75898lah.37 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:54:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.102.10 with SMTP id fk10mr10368142lbb.39.1343170479756; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.28.134 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:54:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4FF34B59.6060005@gmx.de> <4FFF49EE.1070207@gmx.de> <500D51B8.3020006@gmx.de> <500D58DA.7040107@gmx.de> <500D60F7.8030708@gmx.de> <500ECA45.3040609@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:54:39 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la snime blabi From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:16 PM, selpa'i wrote: >> Am 24.07.2012 17:44, schrieb Michael Turniansky: >> >> ".i ny za'u re'u pensi lo nu ta'i ma kau catra kei mu'i lo nu co'u lo nu >> ca'a mlerai be ro lo selgu'e cu na surla kakne ri'a lo nu jilra" > > I just think it interesting that > jboski had no problem parsing it (and let's be honest, most humans wouldn't > have trouble parsing it, either, tending to think of "z'aure'u" as a single > conceptual unit, and since, even if one does take "ny.ra'u" as single unit, > the sentence doesn't parse, even a backtracking type of method must realize > that that can't be right) ".i ny za'u re'u pensi" is grammatical, even though it doesn't parse as intended, just like ".i ca pensi", because "ny za'u re'u" is a tense. If a parser doesn't like it, there is a problem with the parser. I have proposed that PA and BY shouldn't combine, since the benefits of such combinations are much less than the troubles they cause. >> You can think about anything. You can think about objects, events, >> whatever you want. Anything you can hold in your mind can be a pensi2. > > Again, the pedants (and I don't necessarily say that I'm one) would say > that you CAN'T hold a ball in your mind. The x2 of pensi is not for the thought that you hold in your mind but for whatever that thought is about, It's like the x3 of tavla, or the x3 of djuno. You can talk or think about pretty much anything. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.