Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:44474) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Su9fr-00022v-4V; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:03:27 -0700 Received: by eaao11 with SMTP id o11sf114561eaa.16 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:03:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rdUejClyejREhjLJDAlmzXXr9JsCCrYIzHgVrNqwuDE=; b=s4Ujl9+5ltvy/GmV4vZCBN3u4PI7+xyQwGGvntdrfJcfmd33ejwHIH4R8LxlyJXBuW QhbpSlYGSdimlLrtM8y4gmKF2bL8dJIDKRC4BCoTJz8uqm/Rrukn/RjLVWmB7NE+mKHh aEX/FrRu9HeRTGD9ERT3JSBS99cOQVh2e39Fg= Received: by 10.205.123.3 with SMTP id gi3mr1376990bkc.29.1343253790757; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:03:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.131 with SMTP id t3ls1458884bks.9.gmail; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.151.213 with SMTP id d21mr5640382bkw.0.1343253788892; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.151.213 with SMTP id d21mr5640381bkw.0.1343253788869; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f50.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si5715365bks.2.2012.07.25.15.03.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.50; Received: by lahm15 with SMTP id m15so1083152lah.23 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:03:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.109.166 with SMTP id ht6mr27693621lab.46.1343253788389; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.46.36 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:03:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50106468.3070406@gmail.com> References: <5a8b5c2f-8696-4755-835f-6ec3d5e33659@googlegroups.com> <0d1668ba-96a1-4038-8f13-c321a5df9332@googlegroups.com> <81e3c774-a3f4-489b-94b2-73d50557632c@googlegroups.com> <508556af-59a8-4f74-865f-56f59a8e8c85@googlegroups.com> <9f593537-0c09-41db-8a12-cd422accfe84@googlegroups.com> <50106468.3070406@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:03:08 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban on Memrise. From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54ee62ce6704d04c5aea4e4 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec54ee62ce6704d04c5aea4e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Fine. Replace "proprietary" with "unique", then. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:26 PM, vitci'i wrote: > On 07/25/2012 02:51 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:22 PM, .arpis. >wrote: > >> Are you sure you mean "proprietary" and not just "internal"? Sorry to > pick > >> nits, but if you meant exactly what I think you said, I'm confused. > > > > It is the internal format, but not "just". Audacity converts all audio to > > it's own .aup format at load, which is also the only format it is > possible > > to save in. (.wav, .mp3, and .ogg are EXPORT formats.) As far as I am > > aware, only Audacity is able to read that format, making it proprietary. > > I think 'proprietary' implies that it would be *illegal* to write > another program that can also read .aup files. Given that Audacity is > GPL'd, it seem more likely that someone *could* write such a program, > but no one has bothered to yet. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:26 PM, vitci'i <celestialcognition@gmail.com> wrote:
On 07/25/2012 02:51 PM, Jo= nathan Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:22 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Are you sure you mean "proprietary&qu= ot; and not just "internal"? Sorry to pick
>> nits, but if you meant exactly what I think you said, I'm conf= used.
>
> It is the internal format, but not "just". Audacity converts= all audio to
> it's own .aup format at load, which is also the only format it is = possible
> to save in. (.wav, .mp3, and .ogg are EXPORT formats.) As far as I am<= br> > aware, only Audacity is able to read that format, making it proprietar= y.

I think 'proprietary' implies that it would be *illegal* to w= rite
another program that can also read .aup files. Given that Audacity is
GPL'd, it seem more likely that someone *could* write such a program, but no one has bothered to yet.

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