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Just short citation from  http://www.lojban.org/files/why-lojban/swh.txt

115. lojbab: (responding to 106.)  The claim I made is that John Parks-Clifford,

a linguist involved with Loglan	since 1975, told me that he investigated 1970's

Loglan using TG	techniques during the 70's and was able	to demonstrate to his

own satisfaction that all features of Loglan were amenable to TG analysis, and

that he	found no 'unusual' transforms.	More recently, a student in Cleveland

has been attempting to develop a more formal TG	description of the language.

This will undoubtedly take a while, but	he reported to me earlier this year that

not only had he	found nothing unusual, he had identified some elegant features

of the language	using TG techniques.  The features he reported are indeed con-

sistent	with the language definition, and included aspects that	the student had

not been taught	(i.e. that we had not put into any published documents that the

student	had received.


So where is that description by a student from Cleveland?
What's that unusual in Lojban grammar?
Have there been other attempts to describe our beloved badna bangu? 

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Just short citation from&nbsp;
<a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/files/why-lojban/swh.txt">http://www.lojba=
n.org/files/why-lojban/swh.txt</a><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 40px; =
border: none; padding: 0px;"><div><pre style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-w=
rap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; ">115. lojbab: (responding to 106.)=
  The claim I made is that John Parks-Clifford,</pre></div><div><pre style=
=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; ">a =
linguist involved with Loglan	since 1975, told me that he investigated 1970=
's</pre></div><div><pre style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-wrap: break-word=
; white-space: pre-wrap; ">Loglan using TG	techniques during the 70's and w=
as able	to demonstrate to his</pre></div><div><pre style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0=
, 0); word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; ">own satisfaction that=
 all features of Loglan were amenable to TG analysis, and</pre></div><div><=
pre style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-w=
rap; ">that he	found no 'unusual' transforms.	More recently, a student in C=
leveland</pre></div><div><pre style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-wrap: brea=
k-word; white-space: pre-wrap; ">has been attempting to develop a more form=
al TG	description of the language.</pre></div><div><pre style=3D"color: rgb=
(0, 0, 0); word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; ">This will undoub=
tedly take a while, but	he reported to me earlier this year that</pre></div=
><div><pre style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-wrap: break-word; white-space=
: pre-wrap; ">not only had he	found nothing unusual, he had identified some=
 elegant features</pre></div><div><pre style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-w=
rap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; ">of the language	using TG techniqu=
es.  The features he reported are indeed con-</pre></div><div><pre style=3D=
"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; ">siste=
nt	with the language definition, and included aspects that	the student had<=
/pre></div><div><pre style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-wrap: break-word; w=
hite-space: pre-wrap; ">not been taught	(i.e. that we had not put into any =
published documents that the</pre></div><div><pre style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0,=
 0); word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; ">student	had received.<=
/pre></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So where is that description by=
 a student from Cleveland?</div><div>What's that unusual in Lojban grammar?=
</div><div>Have there been other attempts to describe our beloved badna ban=
gu?&nbsp;</div><div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div>

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