Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:33189) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SvWU6-0005xq-EO; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:36:57 -0700 Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3sf5579491obb.16 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:36:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=dsrruN+Kh8BSzuZXx9hujuTStPF+Oa0pG1LFFUW31do=; b=fBWGCuvjGj3OoNFELMkk4yXPasU0L5yyskwXLHL+WhNaGSNgN3VUrcijjoTzVoG3eJ 7ZysitISsXHTsnO/Sb5gp8AKBJHGVzlLQz+3oH0rkaFHyqXTw4mGLwcK6kOhUMSgJ6xn bqnTRBvdlJx2KwgItUt5YAazWr/W9O7Zy6M84= Received: by 10.236.74.38 with SMTP id w26mr1412764yhd.18.1343579803772; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:36:43 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.124.176 with SMTP id x36ls1800139yhh.1.gmail; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.91.229 with SMTP id h65mr4853256yhf.24.1343579802574; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.91.229 with SMTP id h65mr4853255yhf.24.1343579802561; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gh0-f176.google.com (mail-gh0-f176.google.com [209.85.160.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c61si2103399yhm.3.2012.07.29.09.36.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.176; Received: by ghbz10 with SMTP id z10so4833775ghb.35 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:36:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.92.67 with SMTP id bp3mr5302737icc.16.1343579802317; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.15.74 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:36:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:36:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] again about "out of" From: Escape Landsome To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: escaaape@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=escaaape@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Suppose I want to say : "He let the cat out of the bag" (whis is a metaphor for "He let out concealed information") How would I say that in Lojban ? *** Please consider this : *** I would like to keep the ability to make metaphors in Lojban. So maybe, there should exist a way to say this in Lojban : "I let out (the cat + the concealed information) out of (the bag + what conceals)" in such a way that it would use a special construction that binds "cat" to "concealed info", and "bag" to "concealment". Thus, using some other construction which I write here as "*", one could say further : "The *cat was interesting enough" which would be understood as "The (concealed information) was interesting" *** So, is anybody interested by this ? *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.