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Somehow, this misses the point of metaphors, which -- to beat the horse cor=
pse again -- rely on a range of cultural background knowledge, lacking in c=
ultureless (well, not really but you get the idea) Lojban.



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 From: Escape Landsome <escaaape@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] again about "out of"
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Suppose I want to say : "He let the cat out of the bag"

(whis is a metaphor for "He let out concealed information")

How would I say that in Lojban ?

*** Please consider this : ***

I would like to keep the ability to make metaphors in Lojban.

So maybe, there should exist a way to say this in Lojban :

"I let out (the cat + the concealed information) out of (the bag +
what conceals)"

in such a way that it would use a special construction that binds
"cat" to "concealed info", and "bag" to "concealment".=A0 Thus, using
some other construction which I write here as "*", one could say
further :

"The *cat was interesting enough"

which would be understood as

"The (concealed information) was interesting"

*** So, is anybody interested by this ? ***

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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Somehow, t=
his misses the point of metaphors, which -- to beat the horse corpse again =
-- rely on a range of cultural background knowledge, lacking in cultureless=
 (well, not really but you get the idea) Lojban.<br></span></div><div><br><=
/div>  <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; =
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mes, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=
=3D"2"> <hr size=3D"1">  <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span><=
/b> Escape Landsome &lt;escaaape@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-w=
eight: bold;">To:</span></b> lojban@googlegroups.com <br> <b><span style=3D=
"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:36 AM<br> <b=
><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [lojban] again =
about "out
 of"<br> </font> </div> <br>
Suppose I want to say : "He let the cat out of the bag"<br><br>(whis is a m=
etaphor for "He let out concealed information")<br><br>How would I say that=
 in Lojban ?<br><br>*** Please consider this : ***<br><br>I would like to k=
eep the ability to make metaphors in Lojban.<br><br>So maybe, there should =
exist a way to say this in Lojban :<br><br>"I let out (the cat + the concea=
led information) out of (the bag +<br>what conceals)"<br><br>in such a way =
that it would use a special construction that binds<br>"cat" to "concealed =
info", and "bag" to "concealment".&nbsp; Thus, using<br>some other construc=
tion which I write here as "*", one could say<br>further :<br><br>"The *cat=
 was interesting enough"<br><br>which would be understood as<br><br>"The (c=
oncealed information) was interesting"<br><br>*** So, is anybody interested=
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