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When I was in high school (early '70s), I became infatuated with TG, thanks
to my German teacher (Thanks, Miss Meeker!), who introduced me to it. TG
(especially phrase structure grammar) is still my basic model for grammar,
and I haven't been able to get 'into' the newer approaches.

stevo

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:37 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Despite your remark, Linguistics still seems to live pretty much in the
> '70s.  The details of theories have been worked through more thoroughly,
> the relative prominence of different approaches have shifted (without any
> being obliterated -- Social Science are hard to tell from Philosophy
> sometimes) and the mechanical implementation of techniques has vastly
> improved.  But there are still just item-and-process and
> item-and-arrangement vying with one another.  Unification grammar, despite
> its name, doesn't seem to be either holistic nor a blend of the two
> approaches, but rather an elaboration of the Chomskian theme.  (Note: I
> haven't delved into recent detail much, so this may be off base by some
> considerable degree.  But, if it is, the jargon has become terribly
> misleading.)
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Escape Landsome <escaaape@gmail.com>
> *To:* lojban@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:31 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [lojban] What's the current situation with Chomsky's
> grammar for Lojban?
>
> From a linguist's viewpoint, in today Linguistics, chomskyan grammars
> are has-been.
>
> They are supeseded by unification grammars.
>
> And maybe, in some more years, cognitive grammars will render
> unification grammars obsolete.
>
> You still live in the 70's ?
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When I was in high school (early &#39;70s), I became infatuated with TG, th=
anks to my German teacher (Thanks, Miss Meeker!), who introduced me to it. =
TG (especially phrase structure grammar) is still my basic model for gramma=
r, and I haven&#39;t been able to get &#39;into&#39; the newer approaches.=
=A0<div>

<br></div><div>stevo<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 29, 2012=
 at 1:37 PM, John E Clifford <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kali9p=
utra@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">kali9putra@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote=
:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil=
y:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><span>Despite your remark, Lin=
guistics still seems to live pretty much in the &#39;70s.=A0 The details of=
 theories have been worked through more thoroughly, the relative prominence=
 of different approaches have shifted (without any being obliterated -- Soc=
ial Science are hard to tell from Philosophy sometimes) and the mechanical =
implementation of techniques has vastly improved.=A0 But there are still ju=
st item-and-process and item-and-arrangement vying with one another.=A0 Uni=
fication grammar, despite its name, doesn&#39;t seem to be either holistic =
nor a blend of the two approaches, but rather an elaboration of the Chomski=
an theme.=A0 (Note: I haven&#39;t delved into recent detail much, so this m=
ay be off base by some considerable degree.=A0 But, if it is, the jargon ha=
s become terribly
 misleading.)<br></span></div><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family:ti=
mes new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> =
<font face=3D"Arial"> <hr size=3D"1">

  <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Escape Landsome &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:escaaape@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">escaaape@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href=3D"m=
ailto:lojban@googlegroups.com" target=3D"_blank">lojban@googlegroups.com</a=
> <br>

 <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, July 29, 2012=
 11:31 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [=
lojban] What&#39;s the current situation with Chomsky&#39;s grammar for Loj=
ban?<br>

 </font> </div><div><div class=3D"h5"> <br>
From a linguist&#39;s viewpoint, in today Linguistics, chomskyan grammars<b=
r>are has-been.<br><br>They are supeseded by unification grammars.<br><br>A=
nd maybe, in some more years, cognitive grammars will render<br>unification=
 grammars obsolete.<br>

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