Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:44562) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Svn0s-0003NW-6d; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:15:56 -0700 Received: by vbzb23 with SMTP id b23sf6329353vbz.16 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:15:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=X8skmxj5a2LfwMw93ccBtApX/R2+UIKWnoc13eV0il0=; b=R+PZVHBZ5TXYlF5bFMp63wUbYc2vumihbu6RiRgFai1T9HGdOZXPHO9OF7NXmOlSK5 c5NkbPYmQjfvKcEFjz8yyL42vE0OTgKvvenwaRDKsvWkCjdCtut97AiebYHNhJRWkfg/ gBA2r4Pxdz/NquT8snswETDbKxzHAgekoecD8= Received: by 10.52.25.47 with SMTP id z15mr779275vdf.10.1343643339352; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:15:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.35.202 with SMTP id k10ls3418925vdj.0.gmail; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.69.241 with SMTP id h17mr14746575vdu.5.1343643338845; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.69.241 with SMTP id h17mr14746572vdu.5.1343643338809; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f52.google.com (mail-vb0-f52.google.com [209.85.212.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m9si1324409vdg.3.2012.07.30.03.15.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.52; Received: by vbzb23 with SMTP id b23so6025283vbz.39 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.141.116 with SMTP id rn20mr9057503vdb.114.1343643338635; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:15:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.24.193 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:15:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jacob Errington Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:15:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: again about "out of" To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51b141be7793604c6095787 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec51b141be7793604c6095787 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 29 July 2012 23:13, la .lindar. wrote: > I'm sure selpa'i and tsani and all of that lot are going to tease me > endlessly for this, but I came up with an experimental cmavo a while back > when I did the BPFK work that addressed this very problem. > > {te'i} from {to'e nenri} or {to'e + ne'i}. > > It marks of what something is outside. > {to'e ne'i} as one cmavo doesn't sound like a bad idea at all, and is likely to be added to the language, officially, I'd say. In fact, I've used {to'e ne'i} before, on more than one occasion. mu'e mi'e la tsani > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/IGLBwWO6RzYJ. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --bcaec51b141be7793604c6095787 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29 July 2012 23:13, la .lindar. <lindarthebard@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
I'm sure selpa'i and tsani and all of that lot are going to tease m= e endlessly for this, but I came up with an experimental cmavo a while back= when I did the BPFK work that addressed this very problem.

{te'i} from {to'e nenri} or {to'e + ne'i}.
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It marks of what something is outside.

{to'e ne'i} as one cmavo doesn't sound like a b= ad idea at all, and is likely to be added to the language, officially, I= 9;d say. In fact, I've used {to'e ne'i} before, on more than on= e occasion.

mu'e mi'e la tsani
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