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On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>wro=
te:

> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Michael Turniansky
>
> > As for "...me no na'e bo lo cevycau noltruni'u"  That means the
> tradesperson
> > is one of the zero amount of non-"godless queen"  I understand you are
> > trying to go for "none other than the godless queen", but I don't think
> you
> > can do it that way.  You are trying to state someone is a member of a 0
> > cardinality set, I believe.  I understand you want to get the emphasis
> > connoted by the original.  I think maybe   "lo tolci'o ja'a du lo cevyc=
au
> > noltruni'u" would do the same.
>
> "... du no na'e bo lo cevycau noltruni'u" does work though.
>
>   Does it?

 ni'o
" ku'i ui na ru'e vanci ja'e lo nu ba zi ku lo ze torcrida cu xruti lo
zdani"

na modifies the vanci bridi.  I don't think that's what you wanted.  You
probably meant "ui ru'e nai".  Judging by the original German, I think you
want the non-official "fu'au"

BTW, thanks for using my coinage "ticta'u"   That makes the second time
it's been used in written context.  (The first was my translation of the
lyrics of "Comedy Tonight")
        --gejyspa

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at=
 6:18 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambi=
as@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Michael Turniansky<br></=
div>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; As for &quot;...me no na&#39;e bo lo cevycau noltruni&#39;u&quot; =A0T=
hat means the tradesperson<br>
&gt; is one of the zero amount of non-&quot;godless queen&quot; =A0I unders=
tand you are<br>
&gt; trying to go for &quot;none other than the godless queen&quot;, but I =
don&#39;t think you<br>
&gt; can do it that way. =A0You are trying to state someone is a member of =
a 0<br>
&gt; cardinality set, I believe. =A0I understand you want to get the emphas=
is<br>
&gt; connoted by the original. =A0I think maybe =A0 &quot;lo tolci&#39;o ja=
&#39;a du lo cevycau<br>
&gt; noltruni&#39;u&quot; would do the same.<br>
<br>
</div>&quot;... du no na&#39;e bo lo cevycau noltruni&#39;u&quot; does work=
 though.<br>
<div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br></div></blockquote><div>=A0 Does it?</div><div=
><br></div><div>=A0ni&#39;o</div><div>&quot;<span style=3D"background-color=
:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-=
height:18px;text-align:left">=A0</span><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(=
255,255,255);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-heigh=
t:18px;text-align:left">ku&#39;i ui na ru&#39;e vanci ja&#39;e lo nu ba zi =
ku lo ze torcrida cu xruti lo zdani&quot;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:Verdana,A=
rial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:18px;text-align:left">=A0=A0<br>=
</span></div><div style=3D"text-align:left"><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, s=
ans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:18px">na modifies the =
vanci bridi. =A0I don&#39;t think that&#39;s what you wanted. =A0You probab=
ly meant &quot;ui ru&#39;e nai&quot;. =A0Judging by the original German, I =
think you want the non-official &quot;fu&#39;au&quot;</span></font></div>
<div style=3D"text-align:left"><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, sans-serif"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:18px"><br></span></font></div><div =
style=3D"text-align:left"><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, sans-serif"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:18px">BTW, thanks for using my coinage &=
quot;ticta&#39;u&quot; =A0 That makes the second time it&#39;s been used in=
 written context. =A0(The first was my translation of the lyrics of &quot;C=
omedy Tonight&quot;)</span></font></div>
<div style=3D"text-align:left"><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, sans-serif"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:18px">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa</sp=
an></font></div><div style=3D"text-align:left"><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial=
, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:18px"><br>
</span></font></div></div></div>

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