Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:65494) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SxMRV-0002Cn-2H; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 11:17:50 -0700 Received: by qcac11 with SMTP id c11sf1078057qca.16 for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 11:17:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ZfZpNk5nkfCHxxpksftR8c1k+UMCOxZ4vvBiJDc2G5M=; b=Nqq9bBy9TwI5AQtG2aDTjpBRF6c+GvioQ3LsBZ9Pn6kNkmYdIivlethjidjDJvcL2G uNMqVTNuQPWTZJELt6GWSLSvZwCfeVE+TzHxzlwJKeG551VpnHPN6ZjkobPvavj81flS iYjPWHFO0Ku4/3Y1N5mtER5Dp5UPHt9FOd2/I= Received: by 10.50.187.169 with SMTP id ft9mr396176igc.0.1344017852024; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 11:17:32 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.62.136 with SMTP id x8ls5214310ibh.7.gmail; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 11:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.54.66 with SMTP id q2mr1918787icg.17.1344017851017; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 11:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.54.66 with SMTP id q2mr1918783icg.17.1344017851001; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 11:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net. [213.165.64.23]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id bg10si3617447igc.3.2012.08.03.11.17.30; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 11:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.23; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Aug 2012 18:17:28 -0000 Received: from p57A09649.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.33]) [87.160.150.73] by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 03 Aug 2012 20:17:28 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+qhTtu96KqheUlysXbmVr2PJsIa82nvICooJ7dq6 mtqMiMgGXKHVER Message-ID: <501C15B5.2090603@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:17:25 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] la snime blabi References: <5011AB5A.2060505@gmx.de> <5016D944.6030405@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040303040500010907090707" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040303040500010907090707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Am 03.08.2012 18:13, schrieb Michael Turniansky: > " ni'o la snime blabi cu ze'u ze'u cpana lo nenri be lo mrovau gi'e > fusra na gi'e ja'a simlu lo ka sipna" > > 1) "ze'u ze'u" is not recognized by genrei or jobski. If it is in > fact not permissible, might I suggest "ba'e ze'u"? Any combination of TAGs is fine. Anything else would be madness. Still, I changed it to "ze'u sai". > > 2) You got tripped up here due to the default grouping of multiple > logical connectives. This says that she was "not (both lying a long > time in the coffin and decaying) but seemed to be sleeping" In other > words, she either was not lying a long time in the coffin, or not > decaying, or perhaps both. Not what you wanted. Stick a "bo" after > the second gi'e to solve that. That's one way. I just moved the na in front of fusra instead. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --------------040303040500010907090707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Am 03.08.2012 18:13, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
" ni'o la snime blabi cu ze'u ze'u cpana lo nenri be lo mrovau gi'e fusra na gi'e ja'a simlu lo ka sipna"

  1)  "ze'u ze'u" is not recognized by genrei or jobski.  If it is in fact not permissible, might I suggest "ba'e ze'u"?

Any combination of TAGs is fine. Anything else would be madness. Still, I changed it to "ze'u sai".


  2)  You got tripped up here due to the default grouping of multiple logical connectives.  This says that she was "not (both lying a long time in the coffin and decaying) but seemed to be sleeping"  In other words, she either was not lying a long time in the coffin, or not decaying, or perhaps both.  Not what you wanted. Stick a "bo" after the second gi'e to solve that.

That's one way. I just moved the na in front of fusra instead.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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