Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:60487) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sxk3s-0003lP-DH; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 12:31:03 -0700 Received: by yenq11 with SMTP id q11sf71313yen.16 for ; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 12:30:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=N2K375ldF7OG//rIe6sU8qBBOyX/yPYNWC/T781hc+A=; b=U2GyFnugERBJmmKM/D3tjlypNhnsilk9RhSHwAL6EYxvsWpoRxS4eH30d/8INami+8 3/J4RS3RQIoIxWXNgDdStWX+alzwtY3Pl97qLcMPKCTMYQwD/6PbiQMDtGNdi/laOZvH jEErDBilTxgOzZIiV+tUxYQjB9x3aBnmxQC4I= Received: by 10.236.145.70 with SMTP id o46mr1200048yhj.1.1344108649558; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 12:30:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.121.203 with SMTP id r51ls10322686yhh.5.gmail; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 12:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.189.105 with SMTP id b69mr3064146yhn.2.1344108648933; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 12:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.189.105 with SMTP id b69mr3064145yhn.2.1344108648923; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 12:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id i27si3184390yhe.4.2012.08.04.12.30.47; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 12:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5C6216CD for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:30:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Ancient Greek, free word order and the same FA two times in a bridi Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:30:43 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <501CCD85.9090902@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201208041530.45361.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Saturday 04 August 2012 10:12:18 Luke Bergen wrote: > This has come up a couple times before. > > I don't think it's a matter of "we need to figure out how to do this > because other languages do it". I think it's more so a matter of "the > grammar allows this form (fe lo barda cu broda fe lo gerku), we should > probably decide just what it means". Maybe it's good to figure out what this construction means, but I don't think that, in general, it's wise to assign a meaning to every construction that the formal grammar allows. "mi te.u do du ra'o lo gerku pe naku" I consider to be ungrammatical on the second level, even though it is grammatical on the first (the formal grammar). Pierre -- loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.