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[98.138.229.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id bg10si827594igc.3.2012.08.04.16.20.30; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.138.229.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=98.138.229.42; Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 23:20:30 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.226] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 23:20:30 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.99] by t7.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 23:20:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 23:20:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 498290.93144.bm@omp1004.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 66903 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2012 23:20:30 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: d4BaDUcVM1nl3nURE6LAs66VwUchVYGbG_IgZ9eUkw0vJOH 3vSoHqmXHZhS2jim4KbNlp3paCc3CtcJ_mmHNOJ.5CbNtIW2If6XVuy2WY.B bRft9_qV0rVIGZI1jwN9Z29sRM3JhiZFJ0FkgPaJ4VHn9OBsejrmTc_MAtRE a.N9oVbK068W3Y8Y7JvfYN_kmKgxcFGv8bCOi1ytvXKjZPpX_Qgf09i_YJhB nR924JUkVPffhiL3Gvhd2o6BBtxnAjsjDL.PbpbG4Y36XlZ2TvA7zkdo8gJX U99w6LgqqAR2iT8A7kxbFU4ej0uZ4mZHcxee6YBvqM1_suxINYkab6nRfiIS e4KjpGQYv6nbX5HUA4fzSq8LjNd08chbLaImgjsul3T3PG7Ob1H0nHAhDbiZ 2lrJzCIPfdyFVO.emv2bs7szrfNk_M.CR_LBpui5k0wJ2g6Cm60XIFXVL5wN oyUYOtfzWXkM_e7n99PFrOfc2WCmQtzbjz3jC3yBmymnFWHg9wJffDJXvTwH ORU39mfTtSJxjVE_riWpnQLghIzuN6fePzJktSoKa98j.j.ET0tDUT36DO8v fAec5yS84H4CIkv1lcg81GBCw1D08h3zfPYvfUVM- Received: from [99.92.108.194] by web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 16:20:29 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <58935d67-62c7-4949-b2ac-5c20da578d4e@googlegroups.com> <501D77E4.90004@gmx.de> <501D7D26.2070709@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1344122429.66037.YahooMailNeo@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:20:29 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] gua\spi To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" In-Reply-To: <501D7D26.2070709@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.138.229.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-6906265-343430033-1344122429=:66037" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ---6906265-343430033-1344122429=:66037 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No conlang is dead if someone is still reading up on it, though it seems li= ke a couple decades since I last heard of this one.=A0 But Carter was still= on some lists a couple of years ago, so keep looking.=A0 (I confess I neve= r looked at it, since it was politically incorrect when it first started ou= t and I forgot all about it later.) ________________________________ From: selpa'i To: lojban@googlegroups.com=20 Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] gua\spi =20 .oi se'i=20 Am 04.08.2012 21:28, schrieb selpa'i: coi ro do=20 >^:i !ji /glu (to mi rinsa toi)=20 > >First of all, sorry if this doesn't belong here, but I'm trying to find more info about gua\spi, and I know for a fact that at least some jbopre had some involvement with it. (And it's a sister language of lojban)=20 >I read the "Introduction to Gua\spi" and the "Gua\spi Reference Manual", but I felt that those texts were not enough to really get to a point where I could even construct a single bridi. In fact, had I not had a lojbanic background, I would probably not have understood any of it.=20 >I read that the inventor James Carter is not working on the language anymore, but maybe he'd be interested in getting back into it, if there was an audience of interested people.=20 >I know that John Cowan came to Lojban *from* Gua\spi, so please, could you share some of your experiences with the langauge and maybe even point me in some direction? (I really hope the language is *not* hopelessly dead, like another conlang I once wanted to learn= , only to find out that the author had abandonned it.)=20 >If anybody knows of any other learning materials for this langauge, and a more easily searchable dictionary, I'd be very grateful to be made aware of them.=20 > >ki'e mu'o mi'e la selpa'i=20 > > --=20 pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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No conlang= is dead if someone is still reading up on it, though it seems like a coupl= e decades since I last heard of this one.  But Carter was still on som= e lists a couple of years ago, so keep looking.  (I confess I never lo= oked at it, since it was politically incorrect when it first started out an= d I forgot all about it later.)


From: selpa'i <= seladwa@gmx.de>
To:= lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] gua\spi

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.oi se'i

Am 04.08.2012 21:28, schrieb selpa'i:
coi ro do
^:i !ji /glu (to mi rinsa toi)

First of all, sorry if this doesn't belong here, but I'm trying to find more info about gua\spi, and I know for a fact that at least some jbopre had some involvement with it. (And it's a sister language of lojban)
I read the "Introduction to Gua\spi" and the "Gua\spi Reference Manual", but I felt that those texts were not enough to really get to a point where I could even construct a single bridi. In fact, had I not had a lojbanic background, I would probably not have understood any of it.
I read that the inventor James Carter is not working on the language anymore, but maybe he'd be interested in getting back into it, if there was an audience of interested people.
I know that John Cowan came to Lojban *from* Gua\spi, so please, could you share some of your experiences with the langauge and maybe even point me in some direction? (I really hope the language is *not* hopelessly dead, like another conlang I once wanted to learn, only to find out that the author had abandonned it.)
If anybody knows of any other learning materials for this langauge, and a more easily searchable dictionary, I'd be very grateful to be made aware of them.

ki'e mu'o mi'e la selpa'i



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