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I find that guaspi already has a lot of features (tones for grammar, very
short words) that I'd like to see in LoCCan3, but the orthography,
especially for those tones, is so hard for me to grasp that I never pursued
it.

stevo

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 3:28 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:

> coi ro do
> ^:i !ji /glu (to mi rinsa toi)
>
> First of all, sorry if this doesn't belong here, but I'm trying to find
> more info about gua\spi, and I know for a fact that at least some jbopre
> had some involvement with it. (And it's a sister language of lojban)
> I read the "Introduction to Gua\spi" and the "Gua\spi Reference Manual",
> but I felt that those texts were not enough to really get to a point where
> I could even construct a single bridi. In fact, had I not had a lojbanic
> background, I would probably not have understood any of it.
> I read that the inventor James Carter is not working on the language
> anymore, but maybe he'd be interested in getting back into it, if there was
> an audience of interested people.
> I know that John Cowan came to Lojban *from* Gua\spi, so please, could you
> share some of your experiences with the langauge and maybe even point me in
> some direction? (I really hope the language is hopelessly dead, like
> another conlang I once wanted to learn, only to find out that the author
> had abandonned it.)
> If anybody knows of any other learning materials for this langauge, and a
> more easily searchable dictionary, I'd be very grateful to be made aware of
> them.
>
> ki'e mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
>
> --
> pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo
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I find that guaspi already has a lot of features (tones for grammar, very s=
hort words) that I&#39;d like to see in LoCCan3, but the orthography, espec=
ially for those tones, is so hard for me to grasp that I never pursued it.=
=A0<br>

<br>stevo<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 3:28 PM=
, selpa&#39;i <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:seladwa@gmx.de" targe=
t=3D"_blank">seladwa@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">

coi ro do<br>
^:i !ji /glu (to mi rinsa toi)<br>
<br>
First of all, sorry if this doesn&#39;t belong here, but I&#39;m trying to =
find more info about gua\spi, and I know for a fact that at least some jbop=
re had some involvement with it. (And it&#39;s a sister language of lojban)=
<br>


I read the &quot;Introduction to Gua\spi&quot; and the &quot;Gua\spi Refere=
nce Manual&quot;, but I felt that those texts were not enough to really get=
 to a point where I could even construct a single bridi. In fact, had I not=
 had a lojbanic background, I would probably not have understood any of it.=
<br>


I read that the inventor James Carter is not working on the language anymor=
e, but maybe he&#39;d be interested in getting back into it, if there was a=
n audience of interested people.<br>
I know that John Cowan came to Lojban *from* Gua\spi, so please, could you =
share some of your experiences with the langauge and maybe even point me in=
 some direction? (I really hope the language is hopelessly dead, like anoth=
er conlang I once wanted to learn, only to find out that the author had aba=
ndonned it.)<br>


If anybody knows of any other learning materials for this langauge, and a m=
ore easily searchable dictionary, I&#39;d be very grateful to be made aware=
 of them.<br>
<br>
ki&#39;e mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la selpa&#39;i<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=
=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
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pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo<br>
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