Received: from mail-pb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:56542) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sxw5A-0007uY-It; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 01:21:08 -0700 Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2sf2778789pbb.16 for ; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 01:20:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=F2iouJElMMtbr5cKfk84ey6sziWBJHmGao7Lp8x93Q0=; b=6WF6uL0n+1gjMiD4mtMUJPEe2CVrqdtkhV2IYgMSEfDWcS3jROwIHrVnQdJDlvPRYN uWREKUtlfddq+XGRyFmzn9qniaGeQBmRtjQxyGgvPRGSkV0gshZ+OQsrXobstdNtgzlb K019HU6oo9TV63UmA4S0UxoUiQ4Fn8kevbgj4= Received: by 10.236.185.98 with SMTP id t62mr1246951yhm.7.1344154857811; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 01:20:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.154.232 with SMTP id h68ls3099662yhk.2.gmail; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 01:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.195.98 with SMTP id o62mr1241817yhn.19.1344154857221; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 01:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 01:20:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com Cc: John E Clifford , jjllambias@gmail.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1344098888.48487.YahooMailNeo@web184404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <20000625000846.27040.qmail@hotmail.com> <1344098888.48487.YahooMailNeo@web184404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] RE:Trivalent Logics MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_28_15947677.1344154856455" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_28_15947677.1344154856455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, August 4, 2012 8:48:08 PM UTC+4, clifford wrote: > > Yeah, with the unlikely exception of Aymara, it is hard to imagine what= =20 > this would look like in practice. > Why not? Millions of people use it while speaking the language that is=20 highly naturalistic. Just relexing Aymara to Lojban should be quite easy. It's all the matter of= =20 how to teach people to use new but better cmavo. =20 > Juggling even the six basics xorxes offers (or the minimal three)=20 > probably pushes one's understanding pretty far, unless you have a very=20 > concrete notion of what the third value is (and then you may be surprised= =20 > at what the system offers you in some cases). We seem to be better with= =20 > fuzzy (but let's don't get started on that!) than clear-cut triads or mor= e=20 > when it comes to dealing with the world. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jorge Llamb=EDas > *To:* lojban@googlegroups.com=20 > *Sent:* Saturday, August 4, 2012 11:26 AM > *Subject:* Re: [lojban] RE:Trivalent Logics > =20 > On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Gleki Arxokuna > wrote: > > doi xorxes xu do pu troci lo nu pilno lo cimei logji xusycmuma'o ca'o l= o=20 > nu > > tavla? > > .i no roi go'i > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= =20 > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+ > unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at=20 > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > > >=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban/-/BrVEgpdpPDEJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. ------=_Part_28_15947677.1344154856455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Saturday, August 4, 2012 8:48:08 PM UTC+4, clifford wrote:
Yeah, with the unlikely exception of Aymara, it is hard to= imagine what this would look like in practice.
Why not? Millions of people use it while speaking the langua= ge that is highly naturalistic.
Just relexing Aymara to Lojban sh= ould be quite easy. It's all the matter of how to teach people to use new b= ut better cmavo.
 
  Juggli= ng even the six basics xorxes offers (or the minimal three) probably pushes= one's understanding pretty far, unless you have a very concrete notion of = what the third value is (and then you may be surprised at what the system o= ffers you in some cases).  We seem to be better with fuzzy (but let's = don't get started on that!) than clear-cut triads or more when it comes to = dealing with the world.


From: Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
= To: lojban@googlegroups.com
<= span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 1= 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: [lo= jban] RE:Trivalent Logics

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Gleki Arxokuna
<gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
> doi xorxes xu do pu troci lo nu pilno lo cimei logji xus= ycmuma'o ca'o lo nu
> tavla?

.i no roi go'i

mu'o mi'e x= orxes

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