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On 5 August 2012 05:23, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, August 5, 2012 9:11:08 AM UTC+4, JimCarter wrote:
>>
>>> * Virtually all compound words can be transformed algorithmically into
>>> phrases containing only primitive words (lujvo), and the connection
>>> between arguments in such phrases follows regular patterns rather than
>>> being handcrafted for each lujvo.  This feature was a badly needed
>>> (but not politically correct) improvement in Old Loglan, and I think
>>> it would still be attractive in lojban.
>>>
>> Pardon, but how is it possible? Lujvo with internal predicate structure,
>> no?
>>
>
> I would assume in similar manner to how we make "regular" lujvo.
>
> For instance, any {tcebroda} means {ko'a mutce lo ka broda}.
>
>
Picking nits (in case nintadni ever read this) but I think you mean
"{rodytce} means {ko'a mutce lo ka broda}".
{tcero'e} is naljvajvo for about 80% of possible brode. The only meaningful
counterexample is {tcemau} (and its counterpart {tceme'a}) which gets taken
over by the usual structure of -mau and -me'a lujvo: {ko'a zmadu ko'e lo ka
ce'u mutce ko'i ko'o kei ko'u}. Ah, another one would be {tcemlu}.

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On 5 August 2012 05:23, Jonathan Jones <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:32 AM=
, Gleki Arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote=
:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div><div class=3D"im">On Sunday, August 5, 2012 9:11:08 AM UTC+4, Jim=
Carter wrote:</div><div class=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
">* Virtually all compound words can be transformed algorithmically into
<br>phrases containing only primitive words (lujvo), and the connection
<br>between arguments in such phrases follows regular patterns rather than
<br>being handcrafted for each lujvo. =A0This feature was a badly needed
<br>(but not politically correct) improvement in Old Loglan, and I think
<br>it would still be attractive in lojban.
<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div class=3D"im"><div>Pardon, but how i=
s it possible? Lujvo with internal predicate structure, no? <br></div></div=
></blockquote></div><br>I would assume in similar manner to how we make &qu=
ot;regular&quot; lujvo.<br>


<br>For instance, any {tcebroda} means {ko&#39;a mutce lo ka broda}.<span c=
lass=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br clear=3D"all"><br></font></span=
></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Picking nits (in case nintadni ever read =
this) but I think you mean &quot;{rodytce} means {ko&#39;a mutce lo ka brod=
a}&quot;.</div>

<div>{tcero&#39;e} is naljvajvo for about 80% of possible brode. The only m=
eaningful counterexample is {tcemau} (and its counterpart {tceme&#39;a}) wh=
ich gets taken over by the usual structure of -mau and -me&#39;a lujvo: {ko=
&#39;a zmadu ko&#39;e lo ka ce&#39;u mutce ko&#39;i ko&#39;o kei ko&#39;u}.=
 Ah, another one would be {tcemlu}.<br>

</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la tsani</div><div>=A0</div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">=
-- <br>

mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa =
bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am yo=
ur father. :D )</font></span><div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
<br>

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