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On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5 August 2012 05:23, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <
>> gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, August 5, 2012 9:11:08 AM UTC+4, JimCarter wrote:
>>>
>>>> * Virtually all compound words can be transformed algorithmically into
>>>> phrases containing only primitive words (lujvo), and the connection
>>>> between arguments in such phrases follows regular patterns rather than
>>>> being handcrafted for each lujvo.  This feature was a badly needed
>>>> (but not politically correct) improvement in Old Loglan, and I think
>>>> it would still be attractive in lojban.
>>>>
>>> Pardon, but how is it possible? Lujvo with internal predicate structure,
>>> no?
>>>
>>
>> I would assume in similar manner to how we make "regular" lujvo.
>>
>> For instance, any {tcebroda} means {ko'a mutce lo ka broda}.
>>
>>
> Picking nits (in case nintadni ever read this) but I think you mean
> "{rodytce} means {ko'a mutce lo ka broda}".
> {tcero'e} is naljvajvo for about 80% of possible brode. The only
> meaningful counterexample is {tcemau} (and its counterpart {tceme'a}) which
> gets taken over by the usual structure of -mau and -me'a lujvo: {ko'a zmadu
> ko'e lo ka ce'u mutce ko'i ko'o kei ko'u}. Ah, another one would be
> {tcemlu}.
>

Right. I always get that backwards.


>
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Jacob Errington =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nictytan@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">nictytan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x">
<div class=3D"im">On 5 August 2012 05:23, Jonathan Jones <span dir=3D"ltr">=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"i=
m"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Gleki Arxok=
una <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div><div>On Sunday, August 5, 2012 9:11:08 AM UTC+4, JimCarter wrote:=
</div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:=
0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">* Virtually all compound=
 words can be transformed algorithmically into
<br>phrases containing only primitive words (lujvo), and the connection
<br>between arguments in such phrases follows regular patterns rather than
<br>being handcrafted for each lujvo. =A0This feature was a badly needed
<br>(but not politically correct) improvement in Old Loglan, and I think
<br>it would still be attractive in lojban.
<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div><div>Pardon, but how is it possible=
? Lujvo with internal predicate structure, no? <br></div></div></blockquote=
></div><br>I would assume in similar manner to how we make &quot;regular&qu=
ot; lujvo.<br>



<br>For instance, any {tcebroda} means {ko&#39;a mutce lo ka broda}.<span><=
font color=3D"#888888"><br clear=3D"all"><br></font></span></blockquote><di=
v><br></div></div><div>Picking nits (in case nintadni ever read this) but I=
 think you mean &quot;{rodytce} means {ko&#39;a mutce lo ka broda}&quot;.</=
div>


<div>{tcero&#39;e} is naljvajvo for about 80% of possible brode. The only m=
eaningful counterexample is {tcemau} (and its counterpart {tceme&#39;a}) wh=
ich gets taken over by the usual structure of -mau and -me&#39;a lujvo: {ko=
&#39;a zmadu ko&#39;e lo ka ce&#39;u mutce ko&#39;i ko&#39;o kei ko&#39;u}.=
 Ah, another one would be {tcemlu}.<br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br>Right. I always get that backwards.<br>=
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>

</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la tsani</div><div>=A0</div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im"><span><font color=3D"#888888"=
>-- <br>


mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa =
bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am yo=
ur father. :D )</font></span></div><div><br>
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