Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:45750) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SyQvz-00022I-LZ; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 10:17:45 -0700 Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3sf4013239obb.16 for ; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 10:17:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=LPGuwQiuUz0+ZASnCzxekZ53JTz9vl1S413Rfo1+or0=; b=IysER0zM1r4+uaJGaQxjLUibHAwy4bZWTl/662Bxp88IFjUYNt9AI3WK6erz7vdlQB fSMEV2DgCaKTm2SOucCnafnHvFI08TdnATOknkNE5yZ2ufP9LYH5HlQKoRfAKAeB6/aP UtQOP73T22fOMMb1aQ6WZ9YgCeh1cJjyHDb9I= Received: by 10.52.180.202 with SMTP id dq10mr339787vdc.17.1344257074265; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 05:44:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.239.208 with SMTP id kx16ls4447218vcb.8.gmail; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 05:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.34.8 with SMTP id v8mr817736vdi.5.1344257073617; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 05:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 05:44:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <1059afae-0f80-41eb-9a0f-e95bca0179ac@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1a5f9ca9-75f1-409b-868c-5b7c3e6a9674@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Revising mu'ei and CAhA once again. Possible worlds. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9_15395930.1344257072788" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_9_15395930.1344257072788 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Monday, August 6, 2012 3:57:17 PM UTC+4, xorxes wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Gleki Arxokuna > wrote: > > > > Can you see it here in Google Groups? > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/8dgqqPo_36g > > No, but I can see the one you sent directly to me. Your description of > black/white seems to be reversed from what's in the pictures, unless > what I'm seeing is a negative of what you intended. > Sorry, really white ball is non-event, black is event. Although, it doesnt' matter what is event and what is anti-event. But thanks, I'll correct it. > >> but "ca'a" > >> ("actually") is not the same as ""bi'ai"="naka'ena" ("necessarily"). > > > > OK. I agree. Can you somehow add ca'a to this or any other scheme > describing > > possible worlds? > > I think in your scheme "ca'a" corresponds to an event-colour ball, but > without reference to the bag it came from, so it's pure M-level, just > like "ka'e" is pure A-level. > OK. If no other criticism I'll correct it and post it to lojban.org wiki. Are there still other voices for mu'ei? > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/X6mbhaZPI-YJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_9_15395930.1344257072788 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Monday, August 6, 2012 3:57:17 PM UTC+4, xorxes wrote:On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Gleki Ar= xokuna
<gle= ki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can you see it here in Google Groups?
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/= 8dgqqPo_36g

No, but I can see the one you sent directly to me. Your description of
black/white seems to be reversed from what's in the pictures, unless
what I'm seeing is a negative of what you intended.
Sorry, really white ball is non-event, black is event= . Although, it doesnt' matter what is event and what is anti-event. But tha= nks, I'll correct it.


>> but "ca'a"
>> ("actually") is not the same as ""bi'ai"=3D"naka'ena" ("necess= arily").
>
> OK. I agree. Can you somehow add ca'a to this or any other scheme = describing
> possible worlds?

I think in your scheme "ca'a" corresponds to an event-colour ball, but
without reference to the bag it came from, so it's pure M-level, just
like "ka'e" is pure A-level.
OK. If no other criticism I'll correct it and post it= to lojban.org wiki.

Are there still other voices = for mu'ei? 

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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