Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:44884) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SyRju-000339-1z; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 11:09:19 -0700 Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4sf1378741bkw.16 for ; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 11:09:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=XGB073NUbjRRmhkOLQzDLMlGgiX+th/54KPz+OXoeXE=; b=D4aDjaYKqpcyf5rkNLVhANAmGKH68SegZ1VMNaiPyEsMCBfUv2pzq276esoSgUTcxN DIdl1mSstrBL/FxpYXzzj4FnGFNmuRzD+0t9tEDMKnFvT0Ca9WYOBKr6ksGss0iFGVmN oGvXJyyZpY8TsooeXDL/A9IFvWvPQ3cyf9iUg= Received: by 10.180.105.163 with SMTP id gn3mr387932wib.0.1344254238288; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:57:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.188.16 with SMTP id z16ls1493802eem.0.gmail; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.182.7 with SMTP id n7mr920485eem.6.1344254237490; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.182.7 with SMTP id n7mr920483eem.6.1344254237479; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d5si19498934eep.0.2012.08.06.04.57.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.181; Received: by eaan10 with SMTP id n10so649636eaa.40 for ; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:57:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.175.130 with SMTP id z2mr12738736eel.0.1344254237340; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.178.196 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 04:57:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1a5f9ca9-75f1-409b-868c-5b7c3e6a9674@googlegroups.com> References: <1a5f9ca9-75f1-409b-868c-5b7c3e6a9674@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:57:17 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Revising mu'ei and CAhA once again. Possible worlds. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > Can you see it here in Google Groups? > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/8dgqqPo_36g No, but I can see the one you sent directly to me. Your description of black/white seems to be reversed from what's in the pictures, unless what I'm seeing is a negative of what you intended. >> but "ca'a" >> ("actually") is not the same as ""bi'ai"="naka'ena" ("necessarily"). > > OK. I agree. Can you somehow add ca'a to this or any other scheme describing > possible worlds? I think in your scheme "ca'a" corresponds to an event-colour ball, but without reference to the bag it came from, so it's pure M-level, just like "ka'e" is pure A-level. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.