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On Sunday, August 5, 2012 9:38:56 PM UTC+4, xorxes wrote:
>
> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Gleki Arxokuna 
> <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > bi'ai is described as naka'ena which in my scheme is equal to {ca'a}. 
>
> I can't see your scheme without registering to Facebook,

Can you see it here in Google Groups? 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/8dgqqPo_36g

> but "ca'a" 
> ("actually") is not the same as ""bi'ai"="naka'ena" ("necessarily"). 
>
OK. I agree. Can you somehow add ca'a to this or any other scheme 
describing possible worlds?

>
> If something is necessarily the case, then it must be actually the 
> case, but not the other way around. You may hold a philosophical 
> position that says that everything that is the case is necessarily so 
> (i.e. it could not have been any different), but linguistically it 
> doesn't work, because we can and do talk about how things could have 
> been different. If everything necessarily had to be the way it is, 
> nothing could have been different. 
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes 
>

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<br><br>On Sunday, August 5, 2012 9:38:56 PM UTC+4, xorxes wrote:<blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: =
1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Gleki Ar=
xokuna
<br>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gle=
ki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; bi'ai is described as naka'ena which in my scheme is equal to {ca'=
a}.
<br>
<br>I can't see your scheme without registering to Facebook,</blockquote><d=
iv>Can you see it here in Google Groups?&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://groups.goo=
gle.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/8dgqqPo_36g">https://groups.google.com/forum/#=
!topic/lojban/8dgqqPo_36g</a></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: =
1ex;"> but "ca'a"
<br>("actually") is not the same as ""bi'ai"=3D"naka'ena" ("necessarily").
<br></blockquote><div>OK. I agree. Can you somehow add ca'a to this or any =
other scheme describing possible worlds?</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left: 1ex;">
<br>If something is necessarily the case, then it must be actually the
<br>case, but not the other way around. You may hold a philosophical
<br>position that says that everything that is the case is necessarily so
<br>(i.e. it could not have been any different), but linguistically it
<br>doesn't work, because we can and do talk about how things could have
<br>been different. If everything necessarily had to be the way it is,
<br>nothing could have been different.
<br>
<br>mu'o mi'e xorxes
<br></blockquote>

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