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On Sunday, August 5, 2012 4:31:19 PM UTC+4, tsani wrote:
>
> On 5 August 2012 05:23, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <
>> gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>>> On Sunday, August 5, 2012 9:11:08 AM UTC+4, JimCarter wrote:
>>>
>>>> * Virtually all compound words can be transformed algorithmically into 
>>>> phrases containing only primitive words (lujvo), and the connection 
>>>> between arguments in such phrases follows regular patterns rather than 
>>>> being handcrafted for each lujvo.  This feature was a badly needed 
>>>> (but not politically correct) improvement in Old Loglan, and I think 
>>>> it would still be attractive in lojban. 
>>>>
>>> Pardon, but how is it possible? Lujvo with internal predicate structure, 
>>> no? 
>>>
>>
>> I would assume in similar manner to how we make "regular" lujvo.
>>
>> For instance, any {tcebroda} means {ko'a mutce lo ka broda}.
>
> That makes sense. Sorry it's too late to make lujvo in Lojban "regular" 
only.

>
>>
>>
> Picking nits (in case nintadni ever read this) but I think you mean 
> "{rodytce} means {ko'a mutce lo ka broda}".
> {tcero'e} is naljvajvo for about 80% of possible brode. The only 
> meaningful counterexample is {tcemau} (and its counterpart {tceme'a}) which 
> gets taken over by the usual structure of -mau and -me'a lujvo: {ko'a zmadu 
> ko'e lo ka ce'u mutce ko'i ko'o kei ko'u}. Ah, another one would be 
> {tcemlu}.
>
> mu'o mi'e la tsani
>  
>
>> -- 
>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>
>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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<br><br>On Sunday, August 5, 2012 4:31:19 PM UTC+4, tsani wrote:<blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">On 5 August 2012 05:23, Jonathan Jones <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">=
eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Gleki Arxok=
una <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div><div>On Sunday, August 5, 2012 9:11:08 AM UTC+4, JimCarter wrote:=
</div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:=
0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">* Virtually all compound=
 words can be transformed algorithmically into
<br>phrases containing only primitive words (lujvo), and the connection
<br>between arguments in such phrases follows regular patterns rather than
<br>being handcrafted for each lujvo. &nbsp;This feature was a badly needed
<br>(but not politically correct) improvement in Old Loglan, and I think
<br>it would still be attractive in lojban.
<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div><div>Pardon, but how is it possible=
? Lujvo with internal predicate structure, no? <br></div></div></blockquote=
></div><br>I would assume in similar manner to how we make "regular" lujvo.=
<br>


<br>For instance, any {tcebroda} means {ko'a mutce lo ka broda}.</blockquot=
e></div></blockquote><div>That makes sense. Sorry it's too late to make luj=
vo in Lojban "regular" only.</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: =
1ex;"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><font=
 color=3D"#888888"><br clear=3D"all"><br></font></span></blockquote><div><b=
r></div><div>Picking nits (in case nintadni ever read this) but I think you=
 mean "{rodytce} means {ko'a mutce lo ka broda}".</div>

<div>{tcero'e} is naljvajvo for about 80% of possible brode. The only meani=
ngful counterexample is {tcemau} (and its counterpart {tceme'a}) which gets=
 taken over by the usual structure of -mau and -me'a lujvo: {ko'a zmadu ko'=
e lo ka ce'u mutce ko'i ko'o kei ko'u}. Ah, another one would be {tcemlu}.<=
br>

</div><div><br></div><div>mu'o mi'e la tsani</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><span><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>

mu'o mi'e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.lu=
k. mi patfu do zo'o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<=
/font></span><div><br>
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