Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:54553) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SzLtQ-0000Y7-QN; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:06:56 -0700 Received: by ghbf16 with SMTP id f16sf100602ghb.16 for ; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:06:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=f/U26ro2+g0fo03bnShhU1QGIHW0KUgwNO/pdIbtmr4=; b=lONKW+wgY5vu9QDGCLF18OlBNhrz9+zvD0H/fuUvSpfcynA+0KDK3U9Il3TpPUHUlZ N3mek87pHcCmrBeK9NRuU+dKnM3pA0b7KKxv9OHWqwPOD6ziFUu5C1YoSvoSXu2rgs79 oKAglfXRC5r0SahpD1wX2facNvtypuRW60Bhk= Received: by 10.52.21.235 with SMTP id y11mr2487943vde.4.1344492402219; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:06:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.157.82 with SMTP id a18ls1928491vcx.3.gmail; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.67.71 with SMTP id l7mr2489133vdt.12.1344492401780; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 23:06:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <1a5f9ca9-75f1-409b-868c-5b7c3e6a9674@googlegroups.com> <1059afae-0f80-41eb-9a0f-e95bca0179ac@googlegroups.com> <1344353668.22980.YahooMailNeo@web184401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <318ca405-4913-4081-9642-222bdfee3958@googlegroups.com> <1344375991.99278.YahooMailNeo@web184406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Revising mu'ei and CAhA once again. Possible worlds. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5_28001140.1344492401279" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_5_28001140.1344492401279 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:25:42 AM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote: > > Before you get too far, please consider whether or not an idiot can > understand this. If you cannot adequately explain this to me, the dumbest > genius in Lojban-central, you cannot possibly hope to get anybody else to > understand this. I have a feeling that, based on what little I've read, > you've nitpicked the semantics and come up with some massive overhaul that > requires a BA in physics to understand to any decent degree the changes > you've made. Taking into account that I'm not a physicist..... no, you don't have to. > > If you can explain this in terms that a reasonably smart eight-year-old > can understand, > Yes, i have a feeling that i said that already but mentioned 5-year old. But probably it was in #lojban chat. then please do that once you've all figured out what you're doing. If you > can't, then please reconsider what you're doing because you're going to > severely alienate at least one reasonably important member of the community. > The best policy is the following: One or two nice sentences illustrating each CAhA. Period. That's what I wanted to see when I started digging into {mu'ei} but I couldn't put all cmavo in one scheme. I asked Robin for help and you can see his reply. Probably in order to help everyone I'll make another version of the scheme based on latest xorxes' explanations. But please everyone do something yourself too. We all speak different sub-languages, i.e. something that is clear to be may not be so for you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/-X_j_Sqqye0J. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_5_28001140.1344492401279 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:25:42 AM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote:Before you get too far, please co= nsider whether or not an idiot can understand this. If you cannot adeq= uately explain this to me, the dumbest genius in Lojban-central, you cannot= possibly hope to get anybody else to understand this. I have a feeling tha= t, based on what little I've read, you've nitpicked the semantics and come = up with some massive overhaul that requires a BA in physics to understand t= o any decent degree the changes you've made.
Taking into a= ccount that I'm not a physicist..... no, you don't have to. 

If you can exp= lain this in terms that a reasonably smart eight-year-old can understand,
Yes, i have a feeling that i said that already but me= ntioned 5-year old. But probably it was in #lojban chat.

then please do that on= ce you've all figured out what you're doing. If you can't, then please reco= nsider what you're doing because you're going to severely alienate at least= one reasonably important member of the community.
T= he best policy is the following:
One or two nice sentences illust= rating each CAhA. Period.

That's what I wanted to = see when I started digging into {mu'ei} but I couldn't put all cmavo in one= scheme. I asked Robin for help and you can see his reply.
Probab= ly in order to help everyone I'll make another version of the scheme based = on latest xorxes' explanations.

But please everyon= e do something yourself too. We all speak different sub-languages, i.e. som= ething that is clear to be may not be so for you.

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