Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:49531) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SzSTa-0002sW-EX; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:08:43 -0700 Received: by fadw1 with SMTP id w1sf156299fad.16 for ; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:08:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=amCpAGpLpUomEndaDqvdV/FLXLjJmhf4F6xwepAH74M=; b=t2eSBTUh+EagC/AqV5wBk2A7TDyT6P64KIWTFW6q6keD+xK70k0ungIS0PZ91Gg+YH nMw/iDn6tiG7l7zVMjuv+JL05mGe2TQ0HaXXRU98Jh/1KyjuI30SAoKVBjQ52a3PmQGk 51/izxL+dewwtBRb+6yg8XqVJq1zcBMFPv2Nc= Received: by 10.180.101.197 with SMTP id fi5mr89272wib.3.1344517706563; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:08:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.79.101 with SMTP id i5ls291520wix.2.canary; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.95.2 with SMTP id dg2mr192992wib.2.1344517705866; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.95.2 with SMTP id dg2mr192991wib.2.1344517705855; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net. [213.165.64.23]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id e5si193688wiw.0.2012.08.09.06.08.25; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.23; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Aug 2012 13:08:25 -0000 Received: from p57A081B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.33]) [87.160.129.182] by mail.gmx.net (mp033) with SMTP; 09 Aug 2012 15:08:25 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/Gb1ljfKXGC7zoawjpu14ltyOeJ0+3wlcBld+Rbh 33/HbGjInuG9pR Message-ID: <5023B647.7050106@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:08:23 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] gua\spi References: <58935d67-62c7-4949-b2ac-5c20da578d4e@googlegroups.com> <501D77E4.90004@gmx.de> <501E7E98.5070208@gmx.de> <5022F896.7030208@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Am 09.08.2012 07:31, schrieb Gleki Arxokuna: > Two ideas. > 1. Why not change tone notation to pinyin style with numbers? (May be=20 > it'll be easier for future Chinese gua\spi users?) Numbers are not better than the current tone marks, but it's obviously=20 possible to use pinyin-like diacritics: :=C3=AE qn=C7=94 q=C3=B2 jan t=C3= =A1ra j=C3=BAn ks=C3=A8o z=C4=9By j=C3=B9 > 2. If not much difference between Lojban and gua\spi may be create a=20 > two-way converter Lojban <=3D> gua\spi? If such converter exists gua\spi= =20 > can quickly accumulate the same corpus as Lojban. That's an interesting idea, but who shall write such a converter? :) It's probably possible to make a basic converter, but it won't be able=20 to carry over a particular writing style. gua\spi excels at different=20 things than Lojban, so a direct translation won't yield an optimal result. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i --=20 pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.