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On Thursday, August 9, 2012 5:08:23 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote:
>
> Am 09.08.2012 07:31, schrieb Gleki Arxokuna:=20
> > Two ideas.=20
> > 1. Why not change tone notation to pinyin style with numbers? (May be=
=20
> > it'll be easier for future Chinese gua\spi users?)=20
>
> Numbers are not better than the current tone marks, but it's obviously=20
> possible to use pinyin-like diacritics: :=C3=AE qn=C7=94 q=C3=B2 jan t=C3=
=A1ra j=C3=BAn ks=C3=A8o z=C4=9By j=C3=B9=20
>
> > 2. If not much difference between Lojban and gua\spi may be create a=20
> > two-way converter Lojban <=3D> gua\spi? If such converter exists gua\sp=
i=20
> > can quickly accumulate the same corpus as Lojban.=20
>
> That's an interesting idea, but who shall write such a converter? :)=20
> It's probably possible to make a basic converter, but it won't be able=20
> to carry over a particular writing style. gua\spi excels at different=20
> things than Lojban, so a direct translation won't yield an optimal result=
.=20
>
Lojban is syntactically unambiguous.=20
If gua\spi is unambiguous too and their gismu coincide in semantics then=20
there are no problems.
Except technical :)
What is more important that almost every conlanger views other conlangs as=
=20
rival projects.
It shouldn't be the case in Lojbanistan.
No problem if we have numerous LoCCans. Let's see what will be accepted=20
more widely.
This is another level of backward compatibility of LoCCans: through such=20
converter.

>
> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i=20
>
> --=20
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<br><br>On Thursday, August 9, 2012 5:08:23 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote:<blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-lef=
t: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Am 09.08.2012 07:31, schrieb Gleki Ar=
xokuna:
<br>&gt; Two ideas.
<br>&gt; 1. Why not change tone notation to pinyin style with numbers? (May=
 be=20
<br>&gt; it'll be easier for future Chinese gua\spi users?)
<br>
<br>Numbers are not better than the current tone marks, but it's obviously=
=20
<br>possible to use pinyin-like diacritics: :=C3=AE qn=C7=94 q=C3=B2 jan t=
=C3=A1ra j=C3=BAn ks=C3=A8o z=C4=9By j=C3=B9
<br>
<br>&gt; 2. If not much difference between Lojban and gua\spi may be create=
 a=20
<br>&gt; two-way converter Lojban &lt;=3D&gt; gua\spi? If such converter ex=
ists gua\spi=20
<br>&gt; can quickly accumulate the same corpus as Lojban.
<br>
<br>That's an interesting idea, but who shall write such a converter? :)
<br>It's probably possible to make a basic converter, but it won't be able=
=20
<br>to carry over a particular writing style. gua\spi excels at different=
=20
<br>things than Lojban, so a direct translation won't yield an optimal resu=
lt.
<br></blockquote><div>Lojban is syntactically unambiguous.&nbsp;</div><div>=
If gua\spi is unambiguous too and their gismu coincide in semantics then th=
ere are no problems.</div><div>Except technical :)</div><div>What is more i=
mportant that almost every conlanger views other conlangs as rival projects=
.</div><div>It shouldn't be the case in Lojbanistan.</div><div>No problem i=
f we have numerous LoCCans. Let's see what will be accepted more widely.</d=
iv><div>This is another level of backward compatibility of LoCCans: through=
 such converter.</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;=
margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
<br>
<br>--=20
<br>pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo
<br>
<br></blockquote>

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