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On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:29 AM, la .lindar. <lindarthebard@gmail.com>wrote:

> That's fairly inaccurate. Rotation has nothing to with gravity, and
>> falling /requires/ it. It is perfectly possible for something to
>> move/rotate in a clockwise direction without falling. Every celestial body
>> that isn't rotating counter-clockwise does it. (technically: the rotation
>> of the Earth has nothing to do with the fact that the Earth is perpetually
>> falling toward Sol.)
>>
>
> Okay, but as I've asserted many times over and over and over and over and
> over and over again, I'm the stupidest genius at Lojban central. I've
> already established this fact, so we don't need to reestablish it. I didn't
> actually make a claim, I just said some bullshit because I wanted to convey
> a meaning. I understand that rotation has nothing to do with gravity, so
> while I am the stupidest one here, you *really* don't need to explain
> third-grade physics to me. I didn't actually think that was a good way to
> say "clockwise".
>
> I was unaware of {carna}. What goes in the x3?
>

Direction. x2 is the axis of rotation.

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:29 AM, la .lindar. <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lindarthebard@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">lindarthebard@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margi=
n-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">That&#39;s fairly=
 inaccurate. Rotation has nothing to with gravity, and falling /requires/ i=
t. It is perfectly possible for something to move/rotate in a clockwise dir=
ection without falling. Every celestial body that isn&#39;t rotating counte=
r-clockwise does it. (technically: the rotation of the Earth has nothing to=
 do with the fact that the Earth is perpetually falling toward Sol.)<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Okay, but as I&#39;ve asserted many =
times over and over and over and over and over and over again, I&#39;m the =
stupidest genius at Lojban central. I&#39;ve already established this fact,=
 so we don&#39;t need to reestablish it. I didn&#39;t actually make a claim=
, I just said some bullshit because I wanted to convey a meaning. I underst=
and that rotation has nothing to do with gravity, so while I am the stupide=
st one here, you *really* don&#39;t need to explain third-grade physics to =
me. I didn&#39;t actually think that was a good way to say &quot;clockwise&=
quot;.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I was unaware of {carna}. What goes in the x3?</div></b=
lockquote><div><br>Direction. x2 is the axis of rotation. <br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex">
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