Received: from mail-qa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:63411) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Szjpy-0003Oj-EM; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:40:54 -0700 Received: by qadz32 with SMTP id z32sf1304212qad.16 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:40:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=F/Mszh80cQmsazfOMIWfutbhBMpuNfPZ8maLr/Shp94=; b=OaOdQYsLqZMJP0oWnKKmJUXd7lxNtU/htUQ8QeAlGPIrcejkJn3pOOIouEovktpyj4 1We3XxULws2TdaN91XNjMusCgJhb9quy3vx9if91ivgXyVez2AXETW3HQ8DmlGBhkNBi HfWNg2/rHun3Ty7vTThtqmS22xWBiJ0V/Zd34= Received: by 10.68.230.68 with SMTP id sw4mr541639pbc.0.1344584438518; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:40:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.240.162 with SMTP id wb2ls10956517pbc.0.gmail; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.233.226 with SMTP id tz2mr539039pbc.13.1344584438021; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:40:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "la .lindar." To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <4bdee803-3d24-474b-bf12-ced2d730960a@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <201aced6-3e11-408d-b3ec-c31d042519c7@googlegroups.com> <50eeeab2-c661-4c30-8cda-2f9ddb8767de@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Direction of Rotation MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lindarthebard@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lindarthebard@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_235_27748221.1344584437533" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_235_27748221.1344584437533 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I had an idea. Things can only move circularly in one of two directions. >> Why not just use {carna fi li pa} and {carna fi li re}, or even {carna fi >> lo pritu} and {carna fi lo zunle}? > > From a completely unbiased standpoint, without any cultural knowledge, does that unambiguously indicate direction of rotation? Which way is "left"? Are we measuring from the bottom or the top? Which way is the "first" rotation? Is that culturally neutral? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/9NvkUBU3vPYJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_235_27748221.1344584437533 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had an idea. Things can only move circularly in one of two directions.=20 Why not just use {carna fi li pa} and {carna fi li re}, or even {carna=20 fi lo pritu} and {carna fi lo zunle}? 

From a completely unbiased standpoint, without an= y cultural knowledge, does that unambiguously indicate direction of rotatio= n?
Which way is "left"? Are we measuring from the bottom or the t= op?
Which way is the "first" rotation? Is that culturally neutral= ? 

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