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On Friday, August 10, 2012 11:48:50 AM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote:
>
> I apologise for being crabby. I felt insulted that you had assumed I was 
> asking for the definition of the place; I can look that up myself. I felt 
> it was fairly obvious from context what was my intent, but I can see where 
> there could be confusion. I also felt insulted that you felt the need to 
> explain to me that rotation isn't dependent on gravity. I know this. I 
> passed high school. I'm sure it was entirely unintentional, but you've come 
> off as rather condescending.
>
> I've reacted rather poorly, however, and assumed that you had some sort of 
> malevolent intent. I don't imagine this is the case, and I apologise for 
> reacting as though it was.
>
I think it's my fault. We started discussing this stuff in #lojban chat 
 and then moved here.
And lindar published only an extract of our conversation.
Lindar knew that {farlu} wasn't the most generalised gismu that we could 
use. It was just an example of this concept.

Conlusion: lindar is not stupid.

Currently I think that this concept is not related to motion at all. It 
should be called chirality.

If {farna} is just a vector and {klama} is a movement according to such 
vector then
"chirality" is a twisted vector and {carna} is a movement according to such 
vector.


Sorry for such term as "twisted vector" but I'm not an expert in such 
things.
If there are mathematicians or topologists around please enlighten us.

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<br><br>On Friday, August 10, 2012 11:48:50 AM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote:<bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border=
-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">I apologise for being crabby. I f=
elt insulted that you had assumed I was asking for the definition of the pl=
ace; I can look that up myself. I felt it was fairly obvious from context w=
hat was my intent, but I can see where there could be confusion. I also fel=
t insulted that you felt the need to explain to me that rotation isn't depe=
ndent on gravity. I know this. I passed high school. I'm sure it was entire=
ly unintentional, but you've come off as rather condescending.<div><br></di=
v><div>I've reacted rather poorly, however, and assumed that you had some s=
ort of malevolent intent. I don't imagine this is the case, and I apologise=
 for reacting as though it was.</div></blockquote><div>I think it's my faul=
t. We started discussing this stuff in #lojban chat &nbsp;and then moved he=
re.</div><div>And lindar published only an extract of our conversation.</di=
v><div>Lindar knew that {farlu} wasn't the most generalised gismu that we c=
ould use. It was just an example of this concept.</div><div><br></div><div>=
Conlusion: lindar is not stupid.</div><div><br></div><div>Currently I think=
 that this concept is not related to motion at all. It should be called chi=
rality.</div><div><br></div><div>If {farna} is just a vector and {klama} is=
 a movement according to such vector then</div><div>"chirality" is a twiste=
d vector and {carna}&nbsp;is a movement according to such vector.</div><div=
><br></div><div><br></div><div>Sorry for such term as "twisted vector" but =
I'm not an expert in such things.</div><div>If there are mathematicians or =
topologists around please enlighten us.</div>

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