Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:49376) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SzkdI-0003qt-HD; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:32:03 -0700 Received: by weyu3 with SMTP id u3sf544410wey.16 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:31:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rksHoOsT0v1NEVlcvFl1aYRtUS//4F5D1HZ1dQPNW8o=; b=NEFiIYHmGtIS/GqyyKZgCqe99sPnFzKay/Dai7FkBxMWKVzxSCKVzS9iZGwHsJrrIA jCb0IHMnANIjRPW5sp1GoHmlrZphplhlSu6XIy8sZR77kJbTGBtwyRDlcrbCKK2ThJEi fFi4g5RGDQ7amynyrD59pjbdHcQldfjDei01I= Received: by 10.204.152.131 with SMTP id g3mr84447bkw.18.1344587500446; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:31:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.205.119.129 with SMTP id fu1ls3042793bkc.4.gmail; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.129.81 with SMTP id n17mr364634bks.3.1344587499848; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.129.81 with SMTP id n17mr364633bks.3.1344587499826; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com (mail-lb0-f178.google.com [209.85.217.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j4si919430bkj.3.2012.08.10.01.31.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.178; Received: by lbok6 with SMTP id k6so716179lbo.9 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:31:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.37.67 with SMTP id w3mr2045450lbj.93.1344587499262; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.136.73 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:31:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <57ed300f-bde4-4aad-a46f-c68119b75bbe@googlegroups.com> References: <89ba0d72-1f2a-4d0c-a1ce-32e0c773e32c@googlegroups.com> <57ed300f-bde4-4aad-a46f-c68119b75bbe@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:31:39 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Direction of Rotation From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4efe2c8e4353ea04c6e52c56 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --e0cb4efe2c8e4353ea04c6e52c56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:00 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > [...]Conlusion: lindar is not stupid. > Agreed. > Currently I think that this concept is not related to motion at all. It > should be called chirality. > > If {farna} is just a vector and {klama} is a movement according to such > vector then > "chirality" is a twisted vector and {carna} is a movement according to > such vector. > *chirality* (*uncountable *) 1. The phenomenon , in chemistry , physicsand mathematics , in which an object differs from its mirror image . Based on that definition, which is the /only/ one on wiktionary, I have to disagree. > Sorry for such term as "twisted vector" but I'm not an expert in such > things. > If there are mathematicians or topologists around please enlighten us. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --e0cb4efe2c8e4353ea04c6e52c56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:00 AM, Gleki Arxokuna = <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]Conlusion: lindar is not stupid.

Agree= d.
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Currently I t= hink that this concept is not related to motion at all. It should be called= chirality.

If {farna} is just a vector and {klama} is a movement a= ccording to such vector then
"chirality" is a twisted v= ector and {carna}=A0is a movement according to such vector.

chira= lity (uncountable)

  1. The phenomenon, in chemistry, physics and mathematics, in whi= ch an obj= ect differs from its mirror image.
Based on that definition, which is the /only/ one on wiktionary, I hav= e to disagree.
=A0
Sorry for su= ch term as "twisted vector" but I'm not an expert in such thi= ngs.
If there are mathematicians or topologists around please enlighten us.=

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.= i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o=
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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