Received: from mail-ee0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]:63917) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SzlCS-0003yz-7n; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:08:23 -0700 Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49sf556413eek.16 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:08:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=2eVa711LCC/0SIbph83uCkuvNJt0pvBPBYrAyKCTEJQ=; b=HL4pIflh0cih5BoUotXdxF7Vh9Bd9Rpm+Q9SUA7X1McMFyWR89U49cyDUZL2WPW2Su XVSHMDzmKX/F9Gv0VZoXbGWUoAH/r+svaT0btfi9+iTEv0pPabCy2iNy055pztX53GdD YCeCkCvtQR+qsavZdyAGEd3FWsKTO26luVNts= Received: by 10.204.156.25 with SMTP id u25mr86041bkw.8.1344589680108; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:08:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.7.203 with SMTP id e11ls3046555bke.8.gmail; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.129.81 with SMTP id n17mr376709bks.3.1344589679308; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.129.81 with SMTP id n17mr376708bks.3.1344589679286; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e23si938028bks.0.2012.08.10.02.07.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.47; Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3so721576lag.20 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:07:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.114.3 with SMTP id jc3mr2365617lab.11.1344589678938; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.136.73 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:07:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201aced6-3e11-408d-b3ec-c31d042519c7@googlegroups.com> <50eeeab2-c661-4c30-8cda-2f9ddb8767de@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 03:07:58 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Direction of Rotation From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04088c7f2e891d04c6e5ae72 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d04088c7f2e891d04c6e5ae72 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > I had an idea. Things can only move circularly in one of two directions. > Why not just use {carna fi li pa} and {carna fi li re}, or even {carna fi > lo pritu} and {carna fi lo zunle}? > We could also use "positive" and "negative" ({carna li ma'u}/{carna li mi'u? "li" doesn't seem appropriate in this case...), with "negative" being counter-clockwise, in line with polar coordinate notation, but that still doesn't address the reference frame problem. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --f46d04088c7f2e891d04c6e5ae72 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Jonathan Jones = <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
I had an idea. Things can only move circularly in one of two directions. Wh= y not just use {carna fi li pa} and {carna fi li re}, or even {carna fi lo = pritu} and {carna fi lo zunle}?

We could also use= "positive" and "negative" ({carna li ma'u}/{carna = li mi'u? "li" doesn't seem appropriate in this case...), = with "negative" being counter-clockwise, in line with polar coord= inate notation, but that still doesn't address the reference frame prob= lem.

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