Received: from mail-lb0-f189.google.com ([209.85.217.189]:43931) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SzlDw-000411-Ob; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:09:48 -0700 Received: by lban1 with SMTP id n1sf585305lba.16 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:09:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=8QGZKcjLsTwrWxovX4i8eF6ASHHstTjGOI/A2OWVabY=; b=OsHizXcxCa/OyFuLlRPQSQ5pJbF4t5djM9P3+VOcxGNCLcnOsZqGvIwU8DcQxtHifU I8yyo9FgLFfFu49O5PhXRAo3BseAc9WPpxYORatTQao55ea9/60Ormu0tq2uPZy11LCz QIxHIGLKt+36f6RNa2C19/ksPr0ryFgU2Veq0= Received: by 10.204.226.81 with SMTP id iv17mr80911bkb.23.1344589772691; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:09:32 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.4.74 with SMTP id 10ls3114974bkq.0.gmail; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.126.4 with SMTP id gu4mr372576bkc.8.1344589771927; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.126.4 with SMTP id gu4mr372575bkc.8.1344589771904; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com [209.85.215.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e23si938410bks.0.2012.08.10.02.09.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.43; Received: by lagk11 with SMTP id k11so1615059lag.16 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:09:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.105.173 with SMTP id gn13mr2329644lab.20.1344589771435; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.136.73 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:09:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201aced6-3e11-408d-b3ec-c31d042519c7@googlegroups.com> <50eeeab2-c661-4c30-8cda-2f9ddb8767de@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 03:09:31 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Direction of Rotation From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040714c5b1ed7c04c6e5b39a X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d040714c5b1ed7c04c6e5b39a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Son of a... *ni'u... "positive" being... On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> I had an idea. Things can only move circularly in one of two directions. >> Why not just use {carna fi li pa} and {carna fi li re}, or even {carna fi >> lo pritu} and {carna fi lo zunle}? >> > > We could also use "positive" and "negative" ({carna li ma'u}/{carna li > ni'u}? "li" doesn't seem appropriate in this case...), with "positive" > being counter-clockwise, in line with polar coordinate notation, but that > still doesn't address the reference frame problem. > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --f46d040714c5b1ed7c04c6e5b39a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Son of a... *ni'u... "positive" being...

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gma= il.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
I had an idea. Things can only move circularly in one of two directions. Wh= y not just use {carna fi li pa} and {carna fi li re}, or even {carna fi lo = pritu} and {carna fi lo zunle}?

We could al= so use "positive" and "negative" ({carna li ma'u}/{= carna li ni'u}? "li" doesn't seem appropriate in this cas= e...), with "positive" being counter-clockwise, in line with pola= r coordinate notation, but that still doesn't address the reference fra= me problem.


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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo piln= o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Lu= ke, I am your father. :D )




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mu'o mi= 'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.l= uk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. = :D )

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