Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:50217) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Szrr9-0000PE-C4; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:14:46 -0700 Received: by yhoo21 with SMTP id o21sf1804128yho.16 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:14:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=itKV1AEHdvVoCIBjcUClm77PWMtoLXrvEN1lxxEYHAk=; b=eNzkCRkBLqy/d89PjwF6GBdDblpW/xwTQ75X/uLvo1bfXI6DNKX/6PJ7tt4w8OOfYk u9iPxfA6RNKatMHYoeuWSQEJOjsyrnWded/R/v3R4b2TSWgTuCHMI993S9XoozbeQkwH 10oY+an4yBfrYZ4H57sB/mlt1Qt4NkOTXKjaQ= Received: by 10.68.223.66 with SMTP id qs2mr749970pbc.18.1344615268496; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:14:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.227.136 with SMTP id sa8ls12148174pbc.8.gmail; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.196.136 with SMTP id im8mr759994pbc.5.1344615267997; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:14:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <201aced6-3e11-408d-b3ec-c31d042519c7@googlegroups.com> <50eeeab2-c661-4c30-8cda-2f9ddb8767de@googlegroups.com> <4bdee803-3d24-474b-bf12-ced2d730960a@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Direction of Rotation MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1250_27554139.1344615267432" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1250_27554139.1344615267432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just as what I suggested in a parallel topic. We just need two words (after all, we have pairs: south-north, left-right). So two more words are: x1 is rotating clockwise on axis x2 in reference frame x3. x1 is rotating counterclockwise on axis x2 in reference frame x3. Those are important enough to have something at gismu/fu'ivla-IV/zi'evla level. The cultural bias is gone. On Friday, August 10, 2012 8:00:09 PM UTC+4, Escape Landsome wrote: > > You don't prove any of what you claim. > > But, whatever... If you claim you can define "clockwise" without > mentioning a clock, or the apparent move of the Sun in the North > hemisphery, please do it. > > And tell us how you do it. > > I'm really curious as how you define "clockwise" without any cultural > reference... Really... > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/RQtr6Kv8pWcJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_1250_27554139.1344615267432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just as what I suggested in a parallel topic.
We just need two words (a= fter all, we have pairs: south-north, left-right).
So two more wo= rds are:
x1 is rotating clockwise on axis x2 in reference fr= ame x3.
x1 is rotating counterclockwise on axis x2 in refere= nce frame x3.

Those are important enough to = have something at gismu/fu'ivla-IV/zi'evla level.
The cultural bi= as is gone.

On Friday, August 10, 2012 8:00:09 PM UTC+4, Escape La= ndsome wrote:
You don't prove a= ny of what you claim.

But, whatever...  If you claim you can define "clockwise" without
mentioning a clock, or the apparent move of the Sun in the North
hemisphery, please do it.

And tell us how you do it.

I'm really curious as how you define "clockwise" without any cultural
reference...  Really...

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